Re: [PATCH v6 01/13] dt-bindings: connector: analog: add tv norms property

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Hi Mauro, Hans,

thanks for the review.

On 19-05-14 15:11, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Mon, 6 May 2019 12:01:06 +0200
> Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu:
> 
> > On 4/15/19 2:44 PM, Marco Felsch wrote:
> > > Some connectors no matter if in- or output supports only a limited
> > > range of tv norms. It doesn't matter if the hardware behind that
> > > connector supports more than the listed formats since the users are
> > > restriced by a label e.g. to plug only a camera into this connector
> > > which uses the PAL format.  
> > 
> > For S-Video and Composite connectors there are really just two formats
> > to consider: 50 and 60 Hz. I.e. there is no difference between PAL
> > and SECAM. Only for tuners/modulators does this matter.
> > 
> > So it is a good idea to add TVNORM_525_60, TVNORM_625_50 to tvnorms.h.

Of course I can add this ones. With Mauro's concerns below do you still
think that it is a good idea to adapt the example?

Regards,
  Marco

> > In the various bindings examples I would recommend that you use
> > TVNORM_525_60 or TVNORM_625_50 rather than e.g. PAL_M since that's what
> > you would use in practice for Composite/S-Video.
> 
> Hans, that could be true for component video, but for S-Video and
> Composite, you need to tell the demod how the color sub-carrier is
> encoded, and what's its frequency, or otherwise it won't work.
> 
> There are plenty of equipments in Brazil that have both NTSC/M and
> PAL/M (and a few with PAL/N') output. All those formats are 60Hz.
> 
> Colors are only decoded by tvp5150 and other demods if it is set
> to the right color format (PAL or NTSC) and to the right line 
> frequency (60Hz) [1]. Also, some decoders are very sensitive to the
> chroma sub-carrier frequency. That's the case of tvp5150.
> 
> [1] Or - when supported by the hardware - if the demod is set to
>     automatic mode.
> 
>     Automatic mode usually doesn't work well with PAL/M and PAL/N'.
> 
>     The problem is related to the sub-carrier frequency: both 
>     PAL/N' (used only on Paraguay) and NTSC/M have the same 
>     frequency; PAL/M has a close but different frequency for the
>     color sub-carrier.
> 
>     Most decoders use the frequency of the chroma sub-carrier in
>     order to switch between NTSC/M nd PAL/M. So, auto-detection
>     usually fails with PAL/N', as such detectors understand it
>     as NTSC.
> 
>     Worse than that, it is not uncommon to have pseudo-PAL-M devices
>     that were made for the US market, and received a conversion
>     to PAL, with envolves adding a small board with a NTSC->PAL converter.
>     As most TV sets used in this part of the world are designed to
>     work both with PAL/M and PAL/N' (by using a broader notch filter),
>     to make the hardware cheaper, lots of manufacturers just
>     change the modulation on encoders, while keeping the NTSC XTAL.
>     So, in practice, such devices, sold as "PAL/M" are actually PAL/N'.
>     A significant amount of old VCRs and DVD devices found in Brazil
>     are actually PAL/N'. The same applies to game consoles.
> 
>     Btw, the main reason for having analog video streams here nowadays
>     is to copy old videos from VCRs and encode them digitally or to
>     record games from game consoles.
> 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > 	Hans
> > 
> > > 
> > > This patch adds the capability to describe such limitation within the
> > > firmware. There are no format restrictions if the property isn't
> > > present, so it's completely backward compatible.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Marco Felsch <m.felsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Reviewed-by: Rob Herring <robh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > ---
> > > [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/cover/10794703/
> > > 
> > > v6:
> > > - tvnorms.h: use tabs instead of spaces
> > > - tvnorms.h: add TVNORM_PAL and TVNORM_SECAM
> > > - tvnorms.h: drop rarely used TVNORM_ATSC_* norms
> > > 
> > > v2-v4:
> > > - nothing since the patch was squashed from series [1] into this
> > >   series.
> > > 
> > >  .../display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt |  4 ++
> > >  include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h           | 56 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >  2 files changed, 60 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt
> > > index 0c0970c210ab..346f8937a0b7 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/connector/analog-tv-connector.txt
> > > @@ -6,6 +6,9 @@ Required properties:
> > >  
> > >  Optional properties:
> > >  - label: a symbolic name for the connector
> > > +- tvnorms: limit the supported tv norms on a connector to the given ones else
> > > +           all tv norms are allowed. Possible video standards are defined in
> > > +           include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h.
> > >  
> > >  Required nodes:
> > >  - Video port for TV input
> > > @@ -16,6 +19,7 @@ Example
> > >  tv: connector {
> > >  	compatible = "composite-video-connector";
> > >  	label = "tv";
> > > +	tvnorms = <(TVNORM_PAL_M | TVNORM_NTSC_M)>;
> > >  
> > >  	port {
> > >  		tv_connector_in: endpoint {
> > > diff --git a/include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h b/include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..058ab8414145
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/include/dt-bindings/media/tvnorms.h
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@
> > > +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only or X11 */
> > > +/*
> > > + * Copyright 2019 Pengutronix, Marco Felsch <kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > + */
> > > +
> > > +#ifndef _DT_BINDINGS_MEDIA_TVNORMS_H
> > > +#define _DT_BINDINGS_MEDIA_TVNORMS_H
> > > +
> > > +/* one bit for each */
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_B		0x00000001
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_B1		0x00000002
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_G		0x00000004
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_H		0x00000008
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_I		0x00000010
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_D		0x00000020
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_D1		0x00000040
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_K		0x00000080
> > > +
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL		(TVNORM_PAL_B  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_PAL_B1 | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_PAL_G  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_PAL_H  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_PAL_I  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_PAL_D  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_PAL_D1 | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_PAL_K)
> > > +
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_M		0x00000100
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_N		0x00000200
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_Nc		0x00000400
> > > +#define TVNORM_PAL_60		0x00000800
> > > +
> > > +#define TVNORM_NTSC_M		0x00001000	/* BTSC */
> > > +#define TVNORM_NTSC_M_JP	0x00002000	/* EIA-J */
> > > +#define TVNORM_NTSC_443		0x00004000
> > > +#define TVNORM_NTSC_M_KR	0x00008000	/* FM A2 */
> > > +
> > > +#define TVNORM_SECAM_B		0x00010000
> > > +#define TVNORM_SECAM_D		0x00020000
> > > +#define TVNORM_SECAM_G		0x00040000
> > > +#define TVNORM_SECAM_H		0x00080000
> > > +#define TVNORM_SECAM_K		0x00100000
> > > +#define TVNORM_SECAM_K1		0x00200000
> > > +#define TVNORM_SECAM_L		0x00400000
> > > +#define TVNORM_SECAM_LC		0x00800000
> > > +
> > > +#define TVNORM_SECAM		(TVNORM_SECAM_B  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_SECAM_D  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_SECAM_G  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_SECAM_H  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_SECAM_K  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_SECAM_K1 | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_SECAM_L  | \
> > > +				 TVNORM_SECAM_LC)
> > > +
> > > +#endif /* _DT_BINDINGS_MEDIA_TVNORMS_H */
> 
> Patch looks good to me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mauro
> 

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