On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 08:58:17AM +0100, Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:11 AM, Jakob Bohm <saotowjokkoujuxlot@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > So far all the posts I have been able to find about this device on > > wiki.linuxtv.org and in the archives of the linux-tv, linux-dvb > > and linux-media mailing lists have been unconfirmed guesswork of > > the form "I think", "Isn't that" etc. I actually have this device > > (it was the first DVB-C device to hit the market in Denmark after > > our biggest cable TV provider offered unencrypted access to their > > basic packages in DVB-C format for anyone with a paid physical > > connection to their network). > > > > Ok, first the bad news: > > > > When looking inside the device I see two Micronas chips, > > thus *apparantly* confirming the rumors about this device being > > based on the Micronas chips for which Micronas lawyers blocked > > release of an already written FOSS driver back in 2008. > > But to be sure these are the "banned" chips, someone in the know > > should look closely at the photos I have taken of the actual chips > > in the 930C. > > > > Second bad news: When asking Hauppauge all the response I got was > > "You need to post on the www.linuxtv.org site, that's where the > > devlopers are" (and thats all the e-mail said, including the > > spelling mistake in "devlopers"). > > > > Now the observable facts: > > > > 1. Product name is Hauppauge 930C, model 16009 LF Rev B1F0, USB ID > > 2040:1605 . Retail package includes device, a short video cable > > adapter for the minisocket on the device, an IR remote, a small > > table-top retractable antenna and a CD with MS-Windows software > > and drivers. > > > > 2. Device is a combined DVB-C/DVB-T receiver with additional > > inputs for raw analog video as S-VHS or composite (either with > > separate analog stereo sound). I do not recall if the device has > > support for analog TV reception too. > > > > 3. Device is not yet listed in the device tables at linuxtv.org > > with any status (not even "doesn't work"). > > > > 4. Device is a large (= wide body) USB stick, with a standard size > > coaxial antenna input at the back, two indicator LEDs and an IR > > receiver on the right and a proprietary mini-socket for analog > > video/audio input on the left. The underside has a sticker with > > bar code, model number and MAC address. > > > > 4. I have taken close up photos of the device with and without the > > covers off. The inside of the device holds two circuit boards > > with some components hidden between them, I have taken photos > > or the outward facing sides of the two boards. > > > > I have posted the photos at these URLs: > > > > <http://www.jbohm.org/930C/frontAndCable.jpg> > > <http://www.jbohm.org/930C/back.jpg> > > <http://www.jbohm.org/930C/boardFront.jpg> > > <http://www.jbohm.org/930C/boardBack.jpg> > > > > (Please copy the photos to your own archives, these are temporary > > URLs). > > > > And finally something worth investigating: > > > > Some time has passed since Micronas Lawyers blocked the release of > > the FOSS driver for their chipset, maybe they have cooled down now > > and someone from the linuxtv project could approach Hauppauge or > > Pinacle (who seem FOSS-friendly) to put business pressure on their > > chipset supplier Micronas to reverse their decision and permit the > > release of the FOSS driver that was previously developped in > > cooperation between Pinacle, Micronas techs and Devin Heitmueller > > (one of the linuxtv developers). > > > > > > It hasn't been in Micronas hands for a long time anymore. Micronas had > financial trouble > and sold this devision to Trident. > So far we (Sundtek) found an agreement to publish their propriertary > work under closed source but with support for > opensource applications in Linux in userspace not affecting the kernel. > Thanks for posting this info on list. Could someone with access please update the relevant pages at wiki.linuxtv.org? Sincerely Jakob Bohm -- This message is hastily written, please ignore any unpleasant wordings, do not consider it a binding commitment, even if its phrasing may indicate so. Its contents may be deliberately or accidentally untrue. Trademarks and other things belong to their owners, if any. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
