Re: Order of dvb devices

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On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Oliver Endriss <o.endriss@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Devin Heitmueller wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Andreas Besse <besse@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > yes if there are different drivers I already observed the behaviour that
>> > the ordering gets flipped after reboot.
>> >
>> > But if I assume, that there is only *one* driver that is loaded (e.g.
>> > budget_av) for all dvb cards in the system, how is the ordering of these
>> > devices determined? How does the driver "search" for available dvb cards?
>
> The driver does not 'search' for a card. The driver registers the ids of
> all supported cards with the pci subsystem of the kernel.
>
> When the pci subsystem detects a new card, it calls the 'probe' routine
> of the driver (for example saa7146_init_one for saa7146-based cards).
> So the ordering is determined by the pci subsystem.
>
>> I believe your assumption is incorrect.  I believe the enumeration
>> order is not deterministic even for multiple instances of the same
>> driver.  It is not uncommon to hear mythtv users complain that "I have
>> two PVR-150 cards installed in my PC and the order sometimes get
>> reversed on reboot".
>
> Afaik the indeterministic behaviour is caused by udev, not by the
> kernel. We never had these problems before udev was introduced.


True, the ordering is not exactly the same everytime. One will need to
provide PCI Bus related info also to a practical udev configuration to
get things sorted out in a sane way, rather than anything else.



Regards,
Manu
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