Re: [PATCH v7] media: add imx319 camera sensor driver

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On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 4:58 PM Sakari Ailus
<sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Tomasz,
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 01:51:10PM +0900, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > Hi Sakari,
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 11:38 AM <bingbu.cao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Bingbu Cao <bingbu.cao@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > Add a v4l2 sub-device driver for the Sony imx319 image sensor.
> > > This is a camera sensor using the i2c bus for control and the
> > > csi-2 bus for data.
> > >
> > > This driver supports following features:
> > > - manual exposure and analog/digital gain control support
> > > - vblank/hblank control support
> > > -  4 test patterns control support
> > > - vflip/hflip control support (will impact the output bayer order)
> > > - support following resolutions:
> > >     - 3264x2448, 3280x2464 @ 30fps
> > >     - 1936x1096, 1920x1080 @ 60fps
> > >     - 1640x1232, 1640x922, 1296x736, 1280x720 @ 120fps
> > > - support 4 bayer orders output (via change v/hflip)
> > >     - SRGGB10(default), SGRBG10, SGBRG10, SBGGR10
> > >
> > > Cc: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Signed-off-by: Bingbu Cao <bingbu.cao@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Signed-off-by: Tianshu Qiu <tian.shu.qiu@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > This patch is based on sakari's media-tree git:
> > > https://git.linuxtv.org/sailus/media_tree.git/log/?h=for-4.20-1
> > >
> > > Changes from v5:
> > >  - add some comments for gain calculation
> > >  - use lock to protect the format
> > >  - fix some style issues
> > >
> > > Changes from v4 to v5:
> > >  - use single PLL for all internal clocks
> > >  - change link frequency to 482.4MHz
> > >  - adjust frame timing for 2x2 binning modes
> > >    and enlarge frame readout time
> > >  - get CSI-2 link frequencies and external clock
> > >    from firmware
> >
> > If I remember correctly, that was suggested by you. Why do we need to
> > specify link frequency in firmware if it's fully configured by the
> > driver, with the only external dependency being the external clock?
>
> The driver that's now in upstream supports, for now, a very limited set of
> configurations from what the sensor supports. These are more or less
> tailored to the particular system where it is being used right now (output
> image size, external clock frequency, frame rates, link frequencies etc.).

As a side note, they're tailored to exactly the system I mentioned,
with different link frequency hardcoded in the firmware, coming from
earlier stage of development.

> If the same sensor is needed elsewhere (quite likely), the configuration
> needed elsewhere is very likely to be different from what you're using now.
>
> The link frequency in particular is important as using a different link
> frequency (which could be fine elsewhere) could cause EMI issues, e.g.
> rendering your GPS receiver inoperable during the time the camera sensor is
> streaming images.
>
> Should new configurations be added to this driver to support a different
> system, the link frequencies used by those configurations may be
> problematic to your system, and after a software update the driver could as
> well use those new frequencies. That's a big no-no.
>

Okay, those are some valid points indeed, thanks for clarifying.

> >
> > We're having problems with firmware listing the link frequency from v4
> > and we can't easily change it anymore to report the new one. I feel
> > like this dependency on the firmware here is unnecessary, as long as
> > the external clock frequency matches.
>
> This is information you really need to know.
>
> A number of older drivers do not use the link frequency information from
> the firmware but that comes with a risk. Really, it's better to change the
> frequency now to something you can choose, rather than have it changed
> later on to something someone else chose for you.

I guess it means that we have to carry a local downstream patch that
bypasses this check, since we cannot easily change the firmware
anymore.

An alternative would be to make the driver try to select a frequency
that matches what's in the firmware, but issue a warning and fall back
to a default one if a matching is not found. It might be actually
better than nothing for some early testing on new systems, since it
wouldn't require firmware changes.

Best regards,
Tomasz



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