Hi Philipp, On Friday, 23 February 2018 11:56:52 EET Philipp Zabel wrote: > On Fri, 2018-02-23 at 11:29 +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > On Thursday, 22 February 2018 03:39:37 EET Steve Longerbeam wrote: > >> For some subdevices, a fwnode endpoint that has no connection to a > >> remote endpoint may not be an error. Let the parse_endpoint callback > > make that decision in v4l2_async_notifier_fwnode_parse_endpoint(). If > >> the callback indicates that is not an error, skip adding the asd to the > >> notifier and return 0. > >> > >> For the current users of v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() > >> (omap3isp, rcar-vin, intel-ipu3), return -EINVAL in the callback for > >> unavailable remote fwnodes to maintain the previous behavior. > > > > I'm not sure this should be a per-driver decision. > > > > Generally speaking, if an endpoint node has no remote-endpoint property, > > the endpoint node is not needed. I've always considered such an endpoint > > node as invalid. The OF graphs DT bindings are however not clear on this > > subject. > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/graph.txt says: > > Each endpoint should contain a 'remote-endpoint' phandle property > that points to the corresponding endpoint in the port of the remote > device. > > ("should", not "must"). The DT bindings documentation has historically used "should" to mean "must" in many places :-( That was a big mistake. > Later, the remote-node property explicitly lists the remote-endpoint > property as optional. I've seen that too, and that's why I mentioned that the documentation isn't clear on the subject. > > I have either failed to notice when they got merged, or they slowly > > evolved over time to contain contradictory information. In any case, I > > think we should decide on whether such a situation is valid or not from > > an OF graph point of view, and then always reject or always accept and > > ignore those endpoints. > > We are currently using this on i.MX6 to provide empty labeled endpoints > in the dtsi files for board DT writers to link to, both for the display > output and video capture ports. > See for example the endpoints with the labels ipu1_di0_disp0 and > ipu1_csi0_mux_from_parallel_sensor in arch/arm/boot/dts/imx6q.dtsi. This could also be achieved by adding the endpoints in the board DT files. See for instance the hdmi@fead0000 node in arch/arm64/boot/dts/renesas/ r8a7795.dtsi and how it gets extended in arch/arm64/boot/dts/renesas/r8a7795- salvator-x.dts. On the other hand, I also have empty endpoints in the display@feb00000 node of arch/arm64/boot/dts/renesas/r8a7795.dtsi. I think we should first decide what we want to do going forward (allowing for empty endpoints or not), clarify the documentation, and then update the code. In any case I don't think it should be a per-device decision. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart