Hi Hans, On Tuesday, 20 February 2018 10:37:22 EET Hans Verkuil wrote: > On 02/19/2018 11:28 PM, Niklas Söderlund wrote: > > Hi Hans, > > > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > > [snip] > > > >>>>>> Can you then fix v4l2-compliance to stop testing colorspace > >>>>>> against 0xff > >>>>>> ? > >>>>> > >>>>> For now I can simply relax this test for subdevs with sources and > >>>>> sinks. > >>>> > >>>> You also need to relax it for video nodes with MC drivers, as the DMA > >>>> engines don't care about colorspaces. > >>> > >>> Yes, they do. Many DMA engines can at least do RGB <-> YUV conversions, > >>> so they should get the colorspace info from their source and pass it on > >>> to userspace (after correcting for any conversions done by the DMA > >>> engine). > >> > >> Not in the MC case. Video nodes there only model the DMA engine, and are > >> thus not aware of colorspaces. What MC drivers do is check at stream on > >> time when validating the pipeline that the colorspace set by userspace > >> on the video node corresponds to the colorspace on the source pad of the > >> connected subdev, but that's only to ensure that userspace gets a > >> coherent view of colorspace across the pipeline, not to program the > >> hardware. There could be exceptions, but in the general case, the video > >> node implementation of an MC driver will accept any colorspace and only > >> validate it at stream on time, similarly to how it does for the frame > >> size format instance (and in the frame size case it will usually enforce > >> min/max limits when the DMA engine limits the frame size).> > > I'm afraid the issue described above by Laurent is what sparked me to > > write this commit to begin with. In my never ending VIN Gen3 patch-set I > > currency need to carry a patch [1] to implement a hack to make sure > > v4l2-compliance do not fail for the VIN Gen3 MC-centric use-case. This > > patch was an attempt to be able to validate the colorspace using the > > magic value 0xff. > > This is NOT a magic value. The test that's done here is to memset the > format structure with 0xff, then call the ioctl. Afterwards it checks > if there are any remaining 0xff bytes left in the struct since it expects > the driver to have overwritten it by something else. That's where the 0xff > comes from. It's no less or more magic than using 0xdeadbeef or any fixed value :-) I think we all agree that it isn't a value that is meant to be handled specifically by drivers, so it's not magic in that sense. > > I don't feel strongly for this patch in particular and I'm happy to drop > > it. But I would like to receive some guidance on how to then properly > > be able to handle this problem for the MC-centric VIN driver use-case. > > One option is as you suggested to relax the test in v4l-compliance to > > not check colorspace, but commit [2] is not enough to resolve the issue > > for my MC use-case. > > > > As Laurent stated above, the use-case is that the video device shall > > accept any colorspace set from user-space. This colorspace is then only > > used as stream on time to validate the MC pipeline. The VIN driver do > > not care about colorspace, but I care about not breaking v4l2-compliance > > as I find it's a very useful tool :-) > > I think part of my confusion here is that there are two places where you > deal with colorspaces in a DMA engine: first there is a input pad of the > DMA engine entity, secondly there is the v4l2_pix_format for the memory > description. > > The second is set by the driver based on what userspace specified for the > input pad, together with any changes due to additional conversions such > as quantization range and RGB <-> YUV by the DMA engine. No, I'm sorry, for MC-based drivers this isn't correct. The media entity that symbolizes the DMA engine indeed has a sink pad, but it's a video node, not a subdev. It thus has no media bus format configured for its sink pad. The closest pad in the pipeline that has a media bus format is the source pad of the subdev connected to the video node. There's no communication within the kernel at G/S_FMT time between the video node and its connected subdev. The only time we look at the pipeline as a whole is when starting the stream to validate that the pipeline is correctly configured. We thus have to implement G/S_FMT on the video node without any knowledge about the connected subdev, and thus accept any colorspace. > So any colorspace validation is done for the input pad. The question is > what that validation should be. It's never been defined. No format is set on the video node's entity sink pad for the reason above, so no validation occurs when setting the colorspace on the sink pad as that never happens. > Also the handling of COLORSPACE_DEFAULT for pad formats needs to be defined. > > This is not the first time this cropped up, see e.g. this RFC patch: > > https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/41734/ > > > I'm basing the following on the latest v4l-utils master > > (4665ab1fbab1ddaa) which contains commit [2]. The core issue is that if > > I do not have a patch like [1] the v4l2-compliance run fails for format > > ioctls: > > > > Format ioctls (Input 0): > > test VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT/FRAMESIZES/FRAMEINTERVALS: OK > > test VIDIOC_G/S_PARM: OK (Not Supported) > > test VIDIOC_G_FBUF: OK (Not Supported) > > > > fail: v4l2-test-formats.cpp(330): !colorspace > > fail: v4l2-test-formats.cpp(439): testColorspace(pix.pixelformat, > > pix.colorspace, pix.ycbcr_enc, pix.quantization)> > > test VIDIOC_G_FMT: FAIL > > test VIDIOC_TRY_FMT: OK (Not Supported) > > test VIDIOC_S_FMT: OK (Not Supported) > > test VIDIOC_G_SLICED_VBI_CAP: OK (Not Supported) > > test Cropping: OK (Not Supported) > > test Composing: OK (Not Supported) > > test Scaling: OK > > > > Well that is OK as that fails when colorspace is V4L2_COLORSPACE_DEFAULT > > and that is not valid. If I instead of reverting [1] only test for > > V4L2_COLORSPACE_DEFAULT which would not require this patch to implement: > > > > - if (!pix->colorspace || pix->colorspace >= 0xff) > > + if (pix->colorspace == V4L2_COLORSPACE_DEFAULT) > > > > I still fail for the format ioctls: > > > > Format ioctls (Input 0): > > test VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT/FRAMESIZES/FRAMEINTERVALS: OK > > test VIDIOC_G/S_PARM: OK (Not Supported) > > test VIDIOC_G_FBUF: OK (Not Supported) > > test VIDIOC_G_FMT: OK > > > > fail: v4l2-test-formats.cpp(336): colorspace >= 0xff > > fail: v4l2-test-formats.cpp(439): testColorspace(pix.pixelformat, > > pix.colorspace, pix.ycbcr_enc, pix.quantization) fail: > > v4l2-test-formats.cpp(753): Video Capture is valid, but TRY_FMT > > failed to return a format > > test VIDIOC_TRY_FMT: FAIL > > > > fail: v4l2-test-formats.cpp(336): colorspace >= 0xff > > fail: v4l2-test-formats.cpp(439): testColorspace(pix.pixelformat, > > pix.colorspace, pix.ycbcr_enc, pix.quantization) fail: > > v4l2-test-formats.cpp(1018): Video Capture is valid, but no S_FMT > > was implemented > > test VIDIOC_S_FMT: FAIL > > test VIDIOC_G_SLICED_VBI_CAP: OK (Not Supported) > > test Cropping: OK (Not Supported) > > test Composing: OK (Not Supported) > > test Scaling: OK > > > > But now I fail on that colorspace >= 0xff which was what the patch in my > > VIN Gen3 series tries to address but as Laurent points out and I agree > > is not a good idea as the 0xff is a magic number and this patch tried to > > add a remedy too. The root of this in v4l2-compliance is > > createInvalidFmt() which quiet effectively creates an invalid format > > with the colorspace set to 0xff but there are no way for drivers to > > verify that a colorspace value from user-space is valid :-( > > > > If this patch is to be dropped, and I'm fine with that I would like your > > opinion on how I can still keep the VIN driver compatible with the > > compliance tool. The option's I see are: > > > > 1. Keep the patch [1] and accept that there is a need for a 0xff magic > > value. This 'works' but I don't think it's the correct solution. > > > > 2. Move the check this patch tries to add a helper for directly to the > > VIN driver. This works but will require the driver to be updated if a > > new colorspace is added. > > > > 3. Update createInvalidFmt() v4l2-compliance to not set the colorspace > > to 0xff but instead set it to V4L2_COLORSPACE_DEFAULT. A similar > > thing is already done for the filed in this function. > > > > memset(&fmt, 0xff, sizeof(fmt)); > > fmt.type = type; > > fmt.fmt.pix.field = V4L2_FIELD_ANY; > > ... > > > > I'm not sure if this is the best solution as it would not test > > drivers for what happens if they are presented with an invalid > > colorspace. But with such a change the driver can be written to still > > pass the test. > > > > 4. Always forcing a specific colorspace (V4L2_COLORSPACE_SRGB) in the > > VIN format functions and ignoring what was requested by the user. > > > > I don't think this is good at all as it would be possible that > > pipeline validation fails due to a colorspace mismatch. This can be > > worked around by dropping the colorspace check from the VIN stream on > > function. > > > > I'm sure there are other options open which I can't think of, in fact I > > hope there are. I'm not over excited about any of the options above as > > they all in one way or another just works around the problem of being > > able to validate input from user-space. But I'm even less excited about > > breaking v4l2-compliance compatibility so any path I can take here to > > keep the user being able to specify the colorspace and v4l2-compliance > > being happy would be a better solution for me :-) > > > > 1. https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/46717/ > > 2. 432d9ebfcea65337 ("v4l2-compliance: ignore colorspace tests for passthu > > subdevs") > > I do not want to relax the test for colorspace for the v4l2_pix_format in > the compliance test. That test is good and should remain. > > For the input pad format there are two issues: There's no input pad format :-) > 1) Setting the initial colorspace information. If you open the v4l-subdev > device then the initial colorspace data is likely all 0. That's wrong for > the colorspace since 0 is not allowed. So init_cfg should set it to > something non-0 (I'd expect either SRGB or RAW). Or perhaps this should be > done in the core as a standard initialization in the absence of the > init_cfg op (or before it is called). > > An alternative is to allow a 0 (DEFAULT) value here, but then what do you > use in v4l2_pix_format? That definitely can't be 0. I think I prefer to > always have something explicit here. > > 2) Validation of the colorspace fields when setting the format on the input > pad. After thinking about this some more I believe that the only reasonable > thing you can do here is to indeed validate it based on the current range > of known colorspaces (or more strict of course if the hardware has > limitations). > > But rather than adding validate defines I would just add something like this > to the colorspace enum: > > /* Update when a new colorspace is added */ > V4L2_COLORSPACE_LAST = V4L2_COLORSPACE_DCI_P3 > > and do the same for the other colorspace-related enums. > > In v4l2-subdev.c you can then check and validate this. Anything out-of-range > would map to COLORSPACE_SRGB/RAW or 0 (DEFAULT) for the other fields. > > I think SRGB is best here since it is the most widely used and understood > colorspace. > > Another issue is pipeline validation. See the link to the RFC patch above. > The biggest issue here is that filling in these fields has been hit-and-miss > and you don't want things to suddenly fail. > > If the core validates/initializes these fields, then at least we always see > something valid here (i.e. never 0 or > V4L2_COLORSPACE_LAST for the > colorspace). I'd have to think about it some more. > > This whole mess once again shows the importance of good compliance tests, > especially for complex APIs like this. It forces you to think about how > this should be handled instead of doing some vague hand-waving. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart
