On 02/09/18 13:44, Sakari Ailus wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 01:18:18PM +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: >> On 02/09/18 13:01, Sakari Ailus wrote: >>> Hi Hans, >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 09:36:46AM +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: >>>> The VIDIOC_DBG_G/S_REGISTER ioctls imply that VIDIOC_DBG_G_CHIP_INFO is also >>>> present, since without that you cannot use v4l2-dbg. >>>> >>>> Just like the implementation in v4l2-ioctl.c this can be implemented in the >>>> core and no drivers need to be modified. >>>> >>>> It also makes it possible for v4l2-compliance to properly test the >>>> VIDIOC_DBG_G/S_REGISTER ioctls. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> --- >>>> drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c | 13 +++++++++++++ >>>> 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+) >>>> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c b/drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c >>>> index 6cabfa32d2ed..2a5b5a3fa7a3 100644 >>>> --- a/drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c >>>> +++ b/drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c >>>> @@ -255,6 +255,19 @@ static long subdev_do_ioctl(struct file *file, unsigned int cmd, void *arg) >>>> return -EPERM; >>>> return v4l2_subdev_call(sd, core, s_register, p); >>>> } >>>> + case VIDIOC_DBG_G_CHIP_INFO: >>>> + { >>>> + struct v4l2_dbg_chip_info *p = arg; >>>> + >>>> + if (p->match.type != V4L2_CHIP_MATCH_SUBDEV || p->match.addr) >>>> + return -EINVAL; >>>> + if (sd->ops->core && sd->ops->core->s_register) >>>> + p->flags |= V4L2_CHIP_FL_WRITABLE; >>>> + if (sd->ops->core && sd->ops->core->g_register) >>>> + p->flags |= V4L2_CHIP_FL_READABLE; >>>> + strlcpy(p->name, sd->name, sizeof(p->name)); >>>> + return 0; >>>> + } >>> >>> This is effectively doing the same as debugfs except that it's specific to >>> V4L2. I don't think we should endorse its use, and especially not without a >>> real use case. >> >> We (Cisco) use it all the time. Furthermore, this works for any bus, not just >> i2c. Also spi, internal register busses, etc. >> >> It's been in use for many years. More importantly, there is no excuse to have >> only half the API implemented. >> >> It's all fine to talk about debugfs, but are you going to make that? This API >> works, it's supported by v4l2-dbg, it's in use. Now, let's at least make it >> pass v4l2-compliance. >> >> I agree, if we would redesign it, we would use debugfs. But I think it didn't >> even exist when this was made. So this API is here to stay and all it takes >> is this ioctl of code to add the missing piece for subdevs. >> >> Nobody is going to make a replacement for this using debugfs. Why spend effort >> on it if we already have an API for this? > > It's not the first case when a more generic API replaces a subsystem > specific one. We have another conversion to make, switching from > implementing s_power() callback in drivers to runtime PM for instance. > > I simply want to point out that this patch is endorsing something which is > obsolete and not needed: no-one has complained about the lack of this for > sub-devices, haven't they? > > I'd just remove the check from v4l-compliance or make it optional. New > drivers should use debugfs instead if something like that is needed. > You are correct in one respect: we use this API, but with video devices. So subdevices support the g/s_register ops, and they are called via /dev/videoX. We can remove the ioctl support from v4l2-subdev.c (not the g/s_register ops!). Without VIDIOC_DBG_G_CHIP_INFO I don't think v4l2-dbg is usable. Although it is always possible to call the ioctl directly, of course. So if Mauro would agree to this, the DBG ioctl support in v4l2-subdev can be removed. But either remove them, or add this ioctl. Don't leave it in a zombie state. Personally I see no harm whatsoever in just adding VIDIOC_DBG_G_CHIP_INFO. If someone ever makes a patch to switch over to debugfs then these ioctls can be removed. BTW, how would new drivers use debugfs for this? Does regmap provide such access? Regards, Hans