Hi, We're looking to enable the per-plane color management hardware in Mali-DP with atomic properties, which has sparked some conversation around how to handle YCbCr formats. As it stands today, it's assumed that a driver will implicitly "do the right thing" to display a YCbCr buffer. YCbCr data often uses different gamma curves and signal ranges (e.g. BT.609, BT.701, BT.2020, studio range, full-range), so its desirable to be able to explicitly control the YCbCr to RGB conversion process from userspace. We're proposing adding a "CSC" (color-space conversion) property to control this - primarily per-plane for framebuffer->pipeline CSC, but perhaps one per CRTC too for devices which have an RGB pipeline and want to output in YUV to the display: Name: "CSC" Type: ENUM | ATOMIC; Enum values (representative): "default": Same behaviour as now. "Some kind" of YCbCr->RGB conversion for YCbCr buffers, bypass for RGB buffers "disable": Explicitly disable all colorspace conversion (i.e. use an identity matrix). "YCbCr to RGB: BT.709": Only valid for YCbCr formats. CSC in accordance with BT.709 using [16..235] for (8-bit) luma values, and [16..240] for 8-bit chroma values. For 10-bit formats, the range limits are multiplied by 4. "YCbCr to RGB: BT.709 full-swing": Only valid for YCbCr formats. CSC in accordance with BT.709, but using the full range of each channel. "YCbCr to RGB: Use CTM":* Only valid for YCbCr formats. Use the matrix applied via the plane's CTM property "RGB to RGB: Use CTM":* Only valid for RGB formats. Use the matrix applied via the plane's CTM property "Use CTM":* Valid for any format. Use the matrix applied via the plane's CTM property ... any other values for BT.601, BT.2020, RGB to YCbCr etc. etc. as they are required. *This assumes color-management is enabled per-plane. We're currently working on patches to add this mostly to be able to use per-plane degamma, but it would be analogous to the CRTC color-management code and so also be able to expose a per-plane CTM property. Our hardware implements the color-space conversion as a 3x3 matrix, so we can implement a helper to convert a CSC enum value to a CTM matrix for use by any hardware which has a programmable CSC matrix. For any other hardware, the driver simply needs to map the enum value to whatever selector bits are available. It's expected that the "Use CTM" value(s) are *not* the common case, and most of the time userspace will use one of the provided "standard" enum values. The three different flavours of "Use CTM" allow us to support hardware whose CSC hardware can only be used on e.g. YCbCr data. Drivers can of course filter the enum list to expose whichever subset the hardware can support. Having thrashed this out a bit on IRC with Ville, I think the above approach is flexible enough to support at least Mali-DP and i915, without burdening userspace any more than necessary. It also provides the "default" behaviour which is backwards compatible, and allows for fully custom CSC matrices where that is supported. We can obviously implement this as a Mali-DP driver private property, but it would be good to come up with something to go into the core if possible. I'd be happy to hear any feedback, Thanks, Brian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html