On 11/10/2016 09:08 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > Antti, Hans, ping ? Please see below. > > On Friday 04 Nov 2016 09:23:29 Ramesh Shanmugasundaram wrote: >>> On 11/02/2016 10:58 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: >>>> On Wednesday 02 Nov 2016 09:00:00 Ramesh Shanmugasundaram wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday 12 Oct 2016 15:10:29 Ramesh Shanmugasundaram wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This patch adds documentation for the three new SDR formats >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> V4L2_SDR_FMT_SCU16BE >>>>>>>> V4L2_SDR_FMT_SCU18BE >>>>>>>> V4L2_SDR_FMT_SCU20BE >>>>> >>>>> [snip] >>>>> >>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>> + - start + 0: >>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>> + - I'\ :sub:`0[D13:D6]` >>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>> + - I'\ :sub:`0[D5:D0]` >>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>> + - .. row 2 >>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>> + - start + buffer_size/2: >>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>> + - Q'\ :sub:`0[D13:D6]` >>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>> + - Q'\ :sub:`0[D5:D0]` >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The format looks planar, does it use one V4L2 plane (as does NV12) >>>>>>> or two V4L2 planes (as does NV12M) ? Same question for the other >>>>>>> formats. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for bringing up this topic. This is one of the key design >>>>>> dilemma. >>>>>> >>>>>> The I & Q data for these three SDR formats comes from two different >>>>>> DMA channels and hence two separate pointers -> we could say it is >>>>>> v4l2 multi- planar. Right now, I am making it look like a single >>>>>> plane by presenting the data in one single buffer ptr. >>>>>> >>>>>> For e.g. multi-planar SC16 format would look something like this >>>>>> >>>>>> <------------------------32bits----------------------> >>>>>> <--I(14 bit data) + 2bit status--16bit padded zeros--> : start0 + 0 >>>>>> <--I(14 bit data) + 2bit status--16bit padded zeros--> : start0 + 4 >>>>>> ... >>>>>> <--Q(14 bit data) + 2bit status--16bit padded zeros--> : start1 + 0 >>>>>> <--Q(14 bit data) + 2bit status--16bit padded zeros--> : start1 + 4 >>>>>> >>>>>> My concerns are >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) These formats are not a standard as the video "Image Formats". >>>>>> These formats are possible when we use DRIF + MAX2175 combination. >>>>>> If we interface with a different tuner vendor, the above format(s) >>>>>> MAY/MAY NOT be re-usable. We do not know at this point. This is the >>>>>> main open item for discussion in the cover letter. >>>> >>>> If the formats are really device-specific then they should be >>>> documented accordingly and not made generic. >>>> >>>>>> 2) MPLANE support within V4L2 seems specific to video. Please >>>>>> correct me if this is wrong interpretation. >>>>>> >>>>>> - struct v4l2_format contains v4l2_sdr_format and >>>>>> v4l2_pix_format_mplane as members of union. Should I create a new >>>>>> v4l2_sdr_format_mplane? If I have to use v4l2_pix_format_mplane most >>>>>> of the video specific members would be unused (it would be similar >>>>>> to using v4l2_pix_format itself instead of v4l2_sdr_format)? >>>> >>>> I have no answer to that question as I'm not familiar with SDR. Antti, >>>> you've added v4l2_sdr_format to the API, what's your opinion ? Hans, >>>> as you've acked the patch, your input would be appreciated as well. >>> >>> If I understood correctly this hardware provides I and Q samples via >>> different channels and driver now combines those channels as a sequential >>> IQ sample pairs. >> >> The driver combines the two buffer ptrs and present as one single buffer. >> For a buffer of size 200 >> >> ptr + 0 : I I I I ... I >> ptr + 100 : Q Q Q Q ... Q >> >>> I have never seen any other than hw which provides IQ IQ IQ IQ ... IQ. >> >> There are some modes where this h/w combo can also do IQ IQ IQ pattern. >> Those modes are not added in the RFC patchset. >> >>> This is >>> I I I I ... I >>> Q Q Q Q ... Q >>> I am not very familiar with planars, but it sounds like it is correct >>> approach. So I think should be added rather than emulate packet >>> sequential format. >> >> My understanding of V4L2 MPLANE constructs is limited to a quick code read >> only. At this point MPLANE support seems specific to video. SDR is defined >> as separate format like v4l2_pix_format. Questions would be - should we >> define new SDR_MPLANE? or merge SDR format with pix format & reuse existing >> MPLANE with some SDR extensions (if possible)? These seem big design >> decisions. Any suggestions please? >> >> For my use case, MPLANE support does not seem to add significant benefit >> except it may be syntactically correct. I am doing cyclic DMA with a small >> set of h/w buffers and copying each stage to one mmapped vmalloc vb2_buffer >> at two offsets. If we add MPLANE support, it can be two non-contiguous >> buffer pointers. >> >>>>>> - The above decision (accomodate SDR & MPLANE) needs to be >>>>>> propagated across the framework. Is this the preferred approach? >>>>>> >>>>>> It goes back to point (1). As of today, the change set for this >>>>>> combo (DRIF+MAX2175) introduces new SDR formats only. Should it add >>>>>> further SDR+MPLANE support to the framework as well? >>>>>> >>>>>> I would appreciate your suggestions on this regard. > Some terminology first: Planar formats separate the data into different memory areas: in this case one part is all I and one part is all Q. This as opposed to interleaved formats (IQIQIQIQ....). As long as both planes fit in the same buffer all is fine. Since that is the case here there is no need to introduce a new MPLANE API. The MPLANE API was added for video to handle cases where the two planes had to be in two different non-contiguous buffers. So instead of passing one buffer pointer, you need to pass two or more buffer pointers. In hindsight we should have called it the MBUFFER API. Oh well... Anyway, since there is no problem here apparently to keep both planes in one buffer there is also no need to introduce a SDR_MPLANE. 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