Em Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:29:02 +0200 Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Devin > Heitmueller<dheitmueller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Markus Rechberger<mrechberger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> There's a pretty good disclosed detection from Empia available, the > >> linux kernel driver > >> just doesn't support it and very likely will never support it. Instead > >> of doing it the > >> wrong way it's better to turn it off or explicitly ask the user if he > >> wants to do something > >> undefined with his device. > >> The nvidia setup tools also provide an option to force it instead of > >> letting the software > >> just do whatever some developers don't know what it will cause... > >> You don't know what will happen to the device when doing that detection. > >> The initial device in question had to be replugged after we removed > >> the driver from the system. > >> You shouldn't invite people to do undefined things with their hardware > >> so they might break them > >> I think I will submit a few photos what physically can happen to the > >> device with wrong settings. > > > > Well, if there is a known heuristic, I would be very happy to get rid > > of the autodetection logic. I haven't looked at the Empia code in > > months so I should probably do that. > > > > Since I used to design hardware for a living, I am quite familiar with > > what can happen with incorrect GPIOs so I do not believe you need to > > attempt to convince me with photos, which is why I am in favor of > > removing the logic in question. We just need to figure out how to do > > it without causing a regression in current device support. > > > > Interesting... I took a quick look at the code, and it seems like the > > USB errors occur before we change any GPIOs, and more interesting it > > appears that the em2861 itself is wedged (which I believe is the first > > time I've seen that). The code in the log above suggests that the > > autodetection concluded that the profile was not known, so it did not > > arbitrarily pick some incorrect device. I am a bit surprised that > > just reading the eeprom once and doing a scan of the i2c bus would > > wedge the chip. > > > > Is there any information you can give about the board in question in > > terms of what product it is or what components it contains? > > > > it was a simple TVP5150 based device... > > I do not mean my old code either it's also a failure as I got more information > for the new driver after we dropped the old project. > As you know the new driver is entirely in Userpace and supported by all involved > chipcompanies, it comes with its own LinuxDVB and video4linux2 Stack. > > Also vendors have a very low interest in supporting those devices in Kernelspace > as installing devices which should be sold now are not supported by > any distributions. > Devices which have been sold one year ago have a very low till no > motivation anymore. > Most people are simply not able to compile the drivers and/or prepare > the kernel development > environment just for installing and using a TV Card. PLEASE STOP WITH FUD. THIS FORUM IS FOR OPEN SOURCE DRIVER DISCUSSION. AS YOU DECIDED TO GO TO THE DARK SIDE, PLEASE STOP POSTING HERE OR AT THE OPEN SOURCE #IRC CHANNEL. Thanks. Mauro -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
