On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Andy Walls<awalls@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > All I'm saying is that it is obviously the expected behavior, it the > specified behavior, and all the userland apps and scripts are written > with that behavior in mind. > > The applications' expectation of that behavior is, of course, why we are > having this discussion. > > Assuming arguendo, maintaing state in the face of power management is a > hard requirement on the driver; I'll still contend it's harder to change > the existing base of applications and user scripts. Until the spec and > all the existing apps change, not adhering to the spec leads to user > confusion. I guess that means that every product that has a tuner which implements the sleep callback is broken. And yet this is the first case I've heard a user complain, which makes me wonder how big a population is out there that is using scripts to control the tuner. I suspect most people are just using applications like MythTV, xawtv or tvtime, which won't have these issues. I don't intend to come across as argumentative, but if we haven't heard a massive outcry about this by now, maybe nobody actually cares and thus we shouldn't spend the time to build a whole infrastructure to preserve the driver state across the low power mode. Those people who really do care can just disable the power management with a modprobe option. Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html