Re: Donating a mr97310 based elta-media 8212dc (0x093a:0x010e)

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On Fri, 1 May 2009, Wolfram Sang wrote:

Hi Theodore,

know where he lives) then perhaps to Thomas Kaiser, who lives a bit
closer to you. I think that all three of us are equally interested but as

Well, looks like I will send it to Thomas then. I'm glad that it can still be
useful.

I am glad that this is so easily resolved. As I said, I do not know where Kyle lives. If he is somewhere like UK then it would have been possible to get it to him easily, too. But if he is in the US, like me, then it seems that sending the camera for such a distance would simply be impractical.


Judging from the Vendor:Product number which you report, it is one of the
small MR97310 cameras for which the OEM driver was called the "CIF"
driver. Indeed, these cameras are not supported right now, so the matter
is interesting.

I meant, not supported for streaming. The camera ought to be well supported as a still camera.


I tried simply adding the usb-id to the list in mr97310a.c, but as that didn't
produce anything useful (green screen), I thought I'll leave it to the pros :)

Heh. No, that is not enough. Been there. Done that.


<snip>

Finally, I would ask one question:

In the libgphoto2 driver for these cameras, I have a listing for

{"Elta Medi@ digi-cam", GP_DRIVER_STATUS_EXPERIMENTAL, 0x093a, 0x010e},

Do you think this is the same camera, or a different one? Yours has a

I am pretty sure this is the same camera. "elta medi@ digi-cam" is printed on
the front-side. The model number "8212DC" is just on a glued label on the
down-side which may not be present on all charges or may have been removed or
got lost somehow. I could make pictures of the cam if this helps.

I have the impression you sent another mail, now, with the picture. I have not looked at the picture, actually. But the picture would probably not help me at all, because I myself have never seen one of these cameras. What I know about the camera is well summarized in the following entry from libgphoto2/camlibs/mars/ChangeLog:

2004-10-26  Theodore Kilgore <kilgota@xxxxxxxxxx>
        * library.c: ID for Haimei HE-501A, reported by
                     Scott MacKenzie <irrational@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                     ID for Elta Medi@ digicam, reported by
                     Nils Naumann, <nau@xxxxxxx>
                     Support patch submitted by Scott, tested by Nils.
        * mars.c:    Scott's patch applied.
        * protocol.txt: byte codes for new 352x288 and 176x144 resolution
settings recorded; section "UPDATES and REVISIONS" added.

This is the total extent of my knowledge. It does seem, judging from the address of the person who sent me the information about it, and from yours, that the Elta brand is probably local to Europe.

Finally, one of the main reasons why I pass this on is to point out that especially in the cheap camera market there is lots of stuff out there which just has a name painted on a case, or the case looks kind of weird (shaped like a plastic dog, dragon, or squishy toy, attached to a pair of sunglasses as a "spy camera" or whatever) and the electronics inside is indistinguishable from 20 or 30 other devices, which do not come from the same "manufacturer" and may not even have a similar appearance, at all. Do I know all the Mars CIF cameras which have the USB ID of 0x093a:0x010e ? Almost certainly, I do not. Unfortunately, without the cooperation of the manufacturers of these devices that is practically impossible. Therefore let us pray that this non-cooperation somehow will get changed.

Theodore Kilgore
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