Re: Correct signal strength and SNR output for DViCO FusionHDTV7 Dual Express?

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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Michael Krufky <mkrufky@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Dave Johansen <davejohansen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Devin Heitmueller
>> <devin.heitmueller@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Dave Johansen <davejohansen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to get a MythTV setup working with a DViCO FusionHDTV7
>>>> Dual Express using Mythbuntu 8.10 and I have been able to generate a
>>>> channels.conf file using the latest v4l-dvb source code and the scan
>>>> utility that comes with the dvb-utils in Mythbuntu (the dvbscan
>>>> utility in latest dvb-apps source code give me the error "Unable to
>>>> query frontend status"). I am also able to watch channels using
>>>> mplayer, but the the problem is that MythTV does not identify any
>>>> channels. I am able to watch channels using MythTV, but I have to
>>>> manually enter the channel data since the tuning is not working.
>>>>
>>>> The belief is that the signal strength and SNR output must be
>>>> incorrect and that is causing the problem with MythTV. I would like to
>>>> help get this fixed, so others don't have the problems that I have run
>>>> into, so what can I do to help get the signal strength and SNR outputs
>>>> working?
>>>>
>>>> If it's helpful, I have attached an example output using azap with one
>>>> of the channels that I can watch with mplayer:
>>>>
>>>> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
>>>> tuning to 503028615 Hz
>>>> video pid 0x0011, audio pid 0x0014
>>>> status 01 | signal e000 | snr e450 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 |
>>>> status 1f | signal 00ff | snr 00ff | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>> status 1f | signal 00ff | snr 00ff | ber 00000ab7 | unc 00000ab7 | FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>> status 1f | signal 00fa | snr 00fa | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>> status 1f | signal 00fa | snr 00fa | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>> status 1f | signal 00fa | snr 00fa | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>> status 1f | signal 00fa | snr 00fa | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>> status 1f | signal 00fa | snr 00fa | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>> status 1f | signal 00fa | snr 00fa | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>> status 1f | signal 00fa | snr 00fa | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Hello Dave,
>>>
>>> There has been an ongoing discussion about the representation of SNR
>>> and strength to applications such as MythTV.  Currently it is very
>>> inconsistent across drivers.
>>>
>>> To my knowledge, MythTV does not rely on either of these fields during
>>> its scanning.  It relies entirely on the FE_HAS_LOCK to make it's
>>> determination.
>>>
>>> You should probably see what additional logging capabilities are
>>> available in MythTV.
>>>
>>> Also, you might want to see if you can change the lock timeout in your
>>> application, as some applications may have the interval set to a value
>>> too short, which results in it timing out before the lock is acquired.
>>>
>>> Devin
>>>
>>> --
>>> Devin J. Heitmueller
>>> http://www.devinheitmueller.com
>>> AIM: devinheitmueller
>>>
>>
>> So, I tried upping the tuning timeout and MythTV under Mythbuntu 8.10
>> was able to find 1 of the channels (I can find 19 using scan and
>> azap).
>>
>> I then downloaded the Mythbuntu 9.04 beta and got a new antenna. The
>> driver worked out of the box so I didn't need to download/compile the
>> latest v4l-dvb drivers, and it was able to get all 19 channels in
>> MythTV (it took 3 or 4 scans to finally get them all). I realize that
>> that wasn't the most scientific approach, so I will re-try with the
>> old antenna and see if it was the antenna or the software upgrade that
>> did the trick.
>>
>> I also tried cranking the tuning timeout up to 15 seconds and it still
>> couldn't find all of the channels during every scan. Is that something
>> that I need to look into from a MythTV perspective? Or is there
>> something wrong with v4l-dvb that's causing that?
>
> MythTV's channel scanner is undergoing heavy changes in svn trunk.  By
> the time 0.22 comes out, I suspect that MythTV's built-in channel
> scanner will be of a much higher quality.
>
> If you want to get all your channels, I recommend creating your own
> channels.conf using the command line utilities, then import that into
> mythtv via mythtv-setup.
>
> -Mike
>

I have been using scan to generate a channels.conf file and then using
that file when scanning for channels in MythTV, but it only ever finds
a few of the channels when I do a scan in MythTV (even though I can
watch all of them without problems using MythTV). I just repeated the
scan with the imported channels.conf file a few times and it finally
picked up all of the channels. Is that normal/expected behavior? Or
should I just not worry about it until 0.22 comes out?

Dave
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