hermann pitton wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 28.12.2008, 21:54 -0500 schrieb CityK: > >> hermann pitton wrote: >>> schrieb CityK: >>>> While the bttv gallery remains a very useful resource, I don't believe that Gunther is maintaining it any more. In any regard >>>> let s use the V4L-DVB wiki (http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page), as it is best to keep the information all in one >>>> place (i.e. a centralized repository of knowledge and information), as opposed to spread out across multiple 3rd party sources. >>> let's see. It still has lots of advantages. >>> Hacking of hundreds of tuners and advanced gpio and eeprom detection was >>> coordinated there on requests for research coming up on the lists and it >>> has several thousand contributors. A wiki was not even in sight then. >>> >>> I would prefer to see it further maintained for easy searching on hard >>> facts. >>> >>> At least don't call it third party. >>> >>> That is as mad as if you would call the video4linux-list or bytesex.org >>> third party. >>> >>> It is/was to that point the official hardware resource and Gunther a >>> leading tuner/hardware developer and nothing else. >>> >> This is true, and I don't mean to offend anyone's sensibilities about >> it. Likewise, I did state that it remains a very useful resource. >> >> However, I haven't seen a word of boo from Gunther in probably two years >> time. Secondly, some of those users that I had, in the past, requested >> that they submit material to the bttv-gallery have later written/replied >> to me that their submissions went unanswered/unacknowledged. Thirdly, >> despite Gunther's distinguished history and involvement, it is likely >> unclear to an unassuming end user that there is anything other then a >> passing relation between the project and the "bttv-gallery". >> > > That is all OK so far. > > But it is not about sensibilities, but usability in the first place. > Your points are duly noted ... and I have attempted to convey the crux of your message in the note provided here: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Development:_How_to_add_support_for_a_device#Don.27t_forget_to_send_info_to_the_Wiki_.21 > I give an example in short. > > http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards > > This starts with some ASUS My Cinema P7131-Dual model and the photos are > taken from there. But that user had a P7131 Hybrid and he was the only > one ever reporting problems like this, > > DVB, VDR, (***unstable*** causes random memory corruption and crashes), > > but stays on top of all recent PCI cards with hybrid tuners and speaks > for all Asus saa713x ... > > This should be meanwhile eight different cards including the not yet > externally documented Asus Tiger 3in1 I guess. > > It of cause continues here. > http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ASUS_My_Cinema-P7131_Hybrid > > Almost all is wrong or at least not differentiated enough. > > If you look at the bttv-gallery for the related cards, > there is at least _nothing_ wrong. > Well, in these particular regards, I can only reply with what I have previously noted in the wiki in several places, such as: - from the Main page "welcome" message: "Like all other wikis, the V4L-DVB wiki relies upon the contributions of its users. Hence, it will only be as useful as we make it!" - from the DVB-T PCI Cards' note entitled "Please be aware that": "The information contained here is likely non-exhaustive and, despite best efforts to do otherwise, may contain errors. (Please help to keep these lists up-to-date so that they are useful for everyone!)" -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
