Re: man-pages-6.11 released

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On 2025-02-16 07:02, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
[CC += Paul, Sam, help-make@]

Hi Brian, Paul, Sam,

On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 02:48:54PM +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
Bisecting the bug shows it's fault of this commit:

0d69e51cd4b8 (2025-02-10; "share/mk/: Use ?= assignments for user-facing variables")

I suspect there's some variable that we use that exists in a normal
environment?  I'll check.

Hmmm, at first glance, I don't see anything from the environment that
would make this behave differently:

	$ (
		git show 0d69e51cd4b8 \
		| grep '^+' \
		| grep -v '^++' \
		| sed 's/\s*?=.*//' \
		| grep -v '$.' \
		| tr -d '+';

		env \
		| sed 's/=.*//';
	) \
	| sort \
	| uniq -d \
	| wc -l;
	0

The command above says there are no clashes with my environment.

My second guess is that ?= since has the = behavior, which is different
from :=, that might be the problem.  We'd need a hypothetical ?:=,
maybe?

Sam, that means that I'll have to revert this change with no short-term
replacement.  We'll have to live without environment variables for some
more time.  ?= doesn't work for well here, it seems.

I remember GNU make(1) was working on some of that.  Paul, how is it
going with the idea you suggested some time ago of adding "trigraphs" to
GNU make(1)?

Cygwin like Gentoo uses a shell script based build and packaging system (Cygport vs Ebuild) using env vars so the following variables may conflict:

CC=gcc
CFLAGS=-ggdb -O2 -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4
PKG_CONFIG=pkg-config
VERSION=6.11

VERSION is the only package dependent variable that conflicts, but that should not be an issue unless you assume somewhere that it may not be a "clean" version.

Non-Make-Standard "local" variables could perhaps be prefixed or suffixed by _ - _VERSION VERSION_?

Trying to write packaging checks to ensure man pages installed either sourced another file .so, or had the version in the .TH line, found exceptions:

man7/bpf-helpers.7.gz - "Linux v6.?" - you may wish to change that?

man5/tzfile.5.gz man8/tzselect.8.gz man8/zdump.8.gz man8/zic.8.gz
- "Time Zone Database" - I can live with those four (or five?)

--
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis              Calgary, Alberta, Canada

La perfection est atteinte                   Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter  not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retrancher  but when there is no more to cut
                                -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry




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