Re: man/man7/pathname.7: Correct handling of pathnames

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 12:49:29AM +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> 
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 06:07:30PM -0500, Jason Yundt wrote:
> > > I would do in a GUI exactly the same as what command-line programs do:
> > > pass the raw string to whatever API prints them.  If the string makes
> > > sense in the current locale, it will be shown nicely.  If it doesn't
> > > make sense, it will display weird characters, but that's not a terrible
> > > issue.  Just run again with the appropriate locale.
> > 
> > OK, but how does that API figure out what characters to display?  What
> > character encoding should that API use when drawing the characters?  I
> > think that it???s OK to replace the current recommendation, but
> > pathname(7) should really explain how such an API would figure out what
> > characters need to be drawn on the screen.
> 
> That's not a pathname issue anymore.  It's just the issue of printing
> bytes to a user.  I don't think pathname(7) should talk about how bytes
> are shown to a user.

Where should it be documented, then?

> That wouldn't affect at all how applications handle files.
> 
> For example, I have just installed my new laptop (with the C locale),
> and nab's name shows as ??????.  I expect a Japanese filename to be
> shown similarly, although that depends on what each application wants to
> do.  It doesn't really matter, since it's just a cosmetic issue.  The
> string still contains the appropriate bytes, even if I can't read them
> properly.  If I had a file called nab in cyrillic, I would expect ls(1)
> to similarly show ??????, but internally just handle it well, because it
> doesn't even look at the bytes; it just passes them through.
> 
> 
> Have a lovely night!
> Alex
> 
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