Re: [PATCH] epoll.7: clarify the event distribution under edge-triggered mode

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On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 12:36:29PM GMT, Andy Pan via B4 Relay wrote:
> From: Andy Pan <i@xxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Andy,

> 
> ---

I think the text below should go into the commit message.

> For the moment, the edge-triggered epoll generates an event for each
> receipt of a chunk of data, that is to say, epoll_wait() will return
> and tell us a monitored file descriptor is ready whenever there is a
> new activity on that FD since we were last informed about that FD.
> This is not a real _edge_ implementation for epoll, but it's been
> working this way for years and plenty of projects are relying on it. 
> 
> There are several renowned open-source projects relying on this feature
> for notification function (with eventfd), such as nginx [1], netty [2],
> tokio [3], libevent [4], ect. [5] These projects are widely used in today's
> Internet infrastructures. Thus, changing this behavior of epoll ET will
> fundamentally break them and cause a significant negative impact.
> Linux has changed it for pipe before [6], breaking some Android libraries,
> which had got "reverted" somehow. [7] [8]
> 
> Nevertheless, the paragraph in the manual pages describing this
> characteristic of epoll ET seems ambiguous, I think a more explict
> sentence should be used to clarify it. We're improving the notification
> mechanism for libuv recently by exploiting this feature with eventfd,
> which brings us a significant performance boost. [9]
> 
> Therefore, we (as well as the maintainers of nginx, netty, tokio, etc.)
> would have a sense of security to build an enhanced notification function
> based on this feature if there is a guarantee of retaining this implementation
> of epoll ET for the backward compatibility in the man pages.

You should CC <linux-api@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>.

> [1]: https://github.com/nginx/nginx/blob/efc6a217b92985a1ee211b6bb7337cd2f62deb90/src/event/modules/ngx_epoll_module.c#L386-L457
> [2]: https://github.com/netty/netty/pull/9192
> [3]: https://github.com/tokio-rs/mio/blob/309daae21ecb1d46203a7dbc0cf4c80310240cba/src/sys/unix/waker.rs#L111-L143
> [4]: https://github.com/libevent/libevent/blob/525f5d0a14c9c103be750f2ca175328c25505ea4/event.c#L2597-L2614
> [5]: https://github.com/libuv/libuv/pull/4400#issuecomment-2123798748
> [6]: https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2010.1/04363.html
> [7]: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/3a34b13a88caeb2800ab44a4918f230041b37dd9
> [8]: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/3b844826b6c6affa80755254da322b017358a2f4
> [9]: https://github.com/libuv/libuv/pull/4400#issuecomment-2103232402
> 
> Signed-off-by: Andy Pan <i@xxxxxxxxxx>
> ---
>  man/man7/epoll.7 | 1 +
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> 
> diff --git a/man/man7/epoll.7 b/man/man7/epoll.7
> index 951500131..361d9db99 100644
> --- a/man/man7/epoll.7
> +++ b/man/man7/epoll.7
> @@ -172,6 +172,7 @@ .SS Level-triggered and edge-triggered
>  Since even with edge-triggered
>  .BR epoll ,
>  multiple events can be generated upon receipt of multiple chunks of data,
> +that is, an event will be generated upon each receipt of a chunk of data,
>  the caller has the option to specify the
>  .B EPOLLONESHOT
>  flag, to tell
> 
> ---
> base-commit: cbc0a111e4dceea2037c51098de33e6bc8c16a5c
> change-id: 20240727-epoll-et-desc-04ea9a590f3b
> 
> Best regards,
> -- 
> Andy Pan <i@xxxxxxxxxx>

Have a lovely day!
Alex

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<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>

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