Hi Alex, At 2023-10-26T16:12:36+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > Yup. I have similar feelings about C++, BTW. I have a hard time > understanding complex languages. I prefer simpler languages. Most > features can be implemented as library code, without complicating the > language. Just know that following this road will take you to Lisp. Or Scheme. Or Forth. ;-) (Personally, I wish regular C _had_ put memcpy and memset (or bzero :P ) in the language.) > Yep, I have 2/2 locally. Maybe reply to the mail CCing vger, keeping > only the commit message, so that readers of the list can get a notice > of what MR.sed is. Okay. I'll aim for that for v5. > I always make the mistake of writing MS instead of MT, out of inertia > of having an 'S' for the start! :D Yes, that's what Doug McIlroy thought might happen. > The others have nicer mnemonics that work for me; I wouldn't change > them. And well, just for changing MT, I wouldn't do it. > > > SY -> NS (syNopsis start) > > YS -> NE (syNopsis end) > > Hmmm, no; I don't like it. Fair enough. I venture these things on the off chance that they're brilliant strokes that will greatly increase the appeal of learning man(7). > Regarding PP, LP, and P, what's the history of them? Why do we have > the 3? I'm willing to reduce them to just one. We covered this in another thread, but as Ingo noted, there is no hope of actually _retiring_ any of these. At most they can be documentarily deprecated and a high "-rCHECKSTYLE" setting can gripe about them. groff man(7) formats every Seventh Edition Unix (1979) man page correctly as far as I can tell, and I don't want to ever give that up. (This is a slightly different objective from preserving perfect compatibility with 7th edition's tmac.an. I have no qualms about discarding compatibility with details of macro package behavior that no one relied upon for practical purposes.) Regards, Branden
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