On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 09:02, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 08:11, Paul Eggert wrote: >> >> On 2023-06-28 12:15, Rich Felker wrote: >> >> > There's also the problem that off64_t is "exactly 64-bit" which makes >> > it unsuitable as an interface type for cross-platform functions where >> > one could imagine the native type being larger (rather horrifying but >> > possible). >> >> Although we won't have files with 2**63 bytes any time soon, this is the >> best argument for preferring "loff_t" to "off64_t". >> >> But come to think of it, it'd be better to document the type simply as >> "off_t", with a footnote saying the equivalent of "this assumes that on >> 32-bit glibc platforms you compile with -DFILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 like any >> sane person would." The intent really is off_t here, and that will >> remain true even if off_t ever widens past 64 bits. >> >> All the apps I know that use the syscalls in question simply pass >> values that fit in off_t to these functions, and this will work >> regardless of whether these apps are compiled with 64- or (horrors!) >> 32-bit off_t. Admittedly the footnote solution would not be perfect, but >> it's good enough, and it would sidestep the loff_t vs off64_t confusion. > > > For APIs like copy_file_range(2) and splice(2) the arguments are loff_t* so you can't just "pass arguments that fit in off_t" to them. You have to get the pointer type correct, because writing 64-bits through a 32-bit off_t would be bad. And in C++ it won't even compile unless you get the pointer types exactly right (C compilers will typically allow the mismatch with just a warning). > > People miss footnotes. I would really prefer if the signature shown in the man page used a type that will actually compile. If it shows off_t, that won't compile for 32-bit systems without LFS support enabled. Apologies for sending the mail above as HTML - replying as text/plain for those it didn't reach.