Hi Ingo, On 7/26/22 17:37, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
Hi Alejandro, Alejandro Colomar wrote on Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 04:29:49PM +0200:On 7/26/22 15:54, Ingo Schwarze wrote:Alejandro Colomar wrote on Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 02:08:18PM +0200:CAVEATS is an interesting section from OpenBSD.It is no doubt nice when credit is given to OpenBSD, but in this case, it happens to be undeserved. ;-) I see the following early uses of ".SH CAVEATS": * 4.2BSD execve(2), released September 1983, author unknown * 4.3BSD-Tahoe patch(1), released June 1988, author: Larry Wall * 4.3BSD-Reno amd(8), released June 1990, author: Jan-Simon Pendry * 4.4BSD strftime(3), released June 1993, author: Arnold Robbins * 4.4BSD gzip(1), released June 1993, author (unsure) Jean-loup Gailly ? * 4.4BSD mount_kernfs(8), released June 1993, author: Jan-Simon Pendry The first instance of ".Sh CAVEATS" i found is: * 4.4BSD-Lite1 realpath(3), released April 1994, author Keith Bostic It doesn't look as if the UC CSRG used CAVEATS in additional files. Standardization was decided in NetBSD during a discussion on <tech-userlevel@xxxxxxxxxx> leading to this commit: /src/share/misc/mdoc.template revision 1.6 date: 2002-07-10 09:45:18 +0000; author: yamt; lines: +2 -1; add CAVEATS section. discussed on tech-userlevel. The login name "yamt" belongs to YAMAMOTO Takashi. It was then quickly picked up in OpenBSD by Jason McIntyre. So the section has a tradition of almost 40 years and has been standardized in *BSD for about two decades, even though it was not originally a BSD invention.Wasn't it a BSD invention? The sources you mentioned seem to say it is.Well, i looked through BSD history first because that's easiest for me, but it is striking that the authors listed above are not really BSD people: * Larry Wall is the author of perl(1) and not associated with USB or BSD. * Jan-Simon Pendry eventually got an account (pendry@) and ultimately scored slightly above 1000 commits to BSD, but he was an outside contributor and not a member of the CSRG as far as i know. * Arnold Robbins joined the GNU awk(1) project in 1988 and eventually to over maintenance from Paul Rubin, Jay Fenlason, and RMS. Later on, he also contributed to GNU coreutils. In fact, the reason his strftime(3) manual page was included in 4.4BSD is because it was part of his gawk(1) distribution which was included into BSD back then. * gzip(1) was also included into BSD as outside code, below contrib/. The only unambiguous CSRG person in the above list is Keith Bostic, and by the time he used CAVEATS, the section had already been in use for more than a decade.Would it be correct to say "... section from the BSDs"?Some might misunderstand even that. The final CSRG BSD release only contained about seven instances, all but about two coming from outside sources, which is not quite what most would expect hearing "from the BSDs". Besides, Version 10 AT&T UNIX preceded 4.4BSD-Lite1 by about five years and contained more instances of CAVEATS. I dug up some more instances: * AT&T System III UNIX man(7), released 1982 * AT&T UNIX, Eighth Edition ksh(1), released February 1985 * AT&T UNIX, Tenth Edition about seven addition pages, released 1989 So you could say something like this: This section has been used in pages written in the man(7) language by authors from a wide range of projects including AT&T, Korn shell, Perl, GNU and BSD since the early 1980s. Using the section was first officially recommended in 2002 by the file /usr/share/misc/mdoc.template in NetBSD and OpenBSD. According to my knowledge, that would be accurate.
Thanks for the investigation. Committed, with a similar commit message (changing references to man(7) by "manual pages", since I consider mdoc(7) pages as relevant in this regard).
Thanks, Alex -- Alejandro Colomar <http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>
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