Re: [PATCH 13/15] nscd.conf.5: describe reloading, clarifications

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Hi Greg,

On 6/21/22 17:00, Greg Banks wrote:
Hi Michael and Alejandro,

Did something useful happen to this patch?  I don't see it in any public repo I'm aware of.

I think it's in the official git repository:

<https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/commit/man5/nscd.conf.5?id=76954230a81187252201838fb329bff0beee4e8f>

Is that correct?

Thanks,

Alex


Greg.
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*From:* Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Friday, September 10, 2021 18:47
*To:* mtk.manpages@xxxxxxxxx <mtk.manpages@xxxxxxxxx>
*Cc:* Greg Banks <gbanks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; linux-man@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <linux-man@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@xxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [PATCH 13/15] nscd.conf.5: describe reloading, clarifications
From: Greg Banks <gbanks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

- Added a subsection of NOTES describing nscd's reloading behavior
   and providing advice on how to configure it.
- Clarifications for the threads, reload-count, positive-time-to-live,
   check-files, and shared attributes.

Derived by reading the nscd, libresolv and glibc source and some
painful experience.

Signed-off-by: Greg Banks <gbanks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Signed-off-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@xxxxxxxxx>
---
  man5/nscd.conf.5 | 115 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
  1 file changed, 112 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/man5/nscd.conf.5 b/man5/nscd.conf.5
index 7356bf7c2..25ee4901b 100644
--- a/man5/nscd.conf.5
+++ b/man5/nscd.conf.5
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
  .\" Copyright (c) 1999, 2000 SuSE GmbH Nuernberg, Germany
  .\" Author: Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@xxxxxxx>
+.\" Updates: Greg Banks <gbanks@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Copyright (c) 2021 Microsoft Corp.
  .\"
  .\" %%%LICENSE_START(GPLv2+_SW_3_PARA)
  .\" This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
@@ -53,9 +54,13 @@ The default is 0.
  .B threads
  .I number
  .RS
-This is the number of threads that are started to wait for
+This is the initial number of threads that are started to wait for
  requests.
  At least five threads will always be created.
+The number of threads may increase dynamically up to
+.B max\-threads
+in response to demand from clients,
+but never decreases.
  .RE
  .PP
  .B max\-threads
@@ -83,9 +88,20 @@ Specifies the user who is allowed to request statistics.
  unlimited |
  .I number
  .RS
-Limit on the number of times a cached entry gets reloaded without being used
+Sets a limit on the number of times a cached entry
+gets reloaded without being used
  before it gets removed.
-The default is 5.
+The limit can take values ranging from 0 to 254;
+values 255 or higher behave the same as
+.BR unlimited .
+Limit values can be specified in either decimal
+or hexadecimal with a "0x" prefix.
+The special value
+.B unlimited
+is case-insensitive.
+The default limit is 5.
+A limit of 0 turns off the reloading feature.
+See NOTES below for further discussion of reloading.
  .RE
  .PP
  .B paranoia
@@ -128,6 +144,9 @@ in the specified cache for
  is in seconds.
  Larger values increase cache hit rates and reduce mean
  response times, but increase problems with cache coherence.
+Note that for some name services (including specifically DNS)
+the TTL returned from the name service is used and
+this attribute is ignored.
  .RE
  .PP
  .B negative\-time\-to\-live
@@ -166,6 +185,7 @@ The files are
  .IR /etc/passwd ,
  .IR /etc/group ,
  .IR /etc/hosts ,
+.IR /etc/resolv.conf ,
  .IR /etc/services ,
  and
  .IR /etc/netgroup .
@@ -194,6 +214,8 @@ is shared with the clients so
  that they can directly search in them instead of having to ask the
  daemon over the socket each time a lookup is performed.
  The default is no.
+Note that a cache miss will still result in
+asking the daemon over the socket.
  .RE
  .PP
  .B max\-db\-size
@@ -236,6 +258,93 @@ from the source code of
  and are used if not overridden in the configuration file.
  The default values used in the configuration file of
  your distribution might differ.
+.SS Reloading
+.BR nscd (8)
+has a feature called reloading,
+whose behavior can be surprising.
+.PP
+Reloading is enabled when the
+.B reload-count
+attribute has a non-zero value.
+The default value in the source code enables reloading,
+although your distribution may differ.
+.PP
+When reloading is enabled,
+positive cached entries (the results of successful queries)
+do not simply expire when their TTL is up.
+Instead, at the expiry time,
+.B nscd
+will "reload",
+i.e.,
+re-issue to the name service the same query that created the cached entry,
+to get a new value to cache.
+Depending on
+.I /etc/nsswitch.conf
+this may mean that a DNS, LDAP, or NIS request is made.
+If the new query is successful,
+reloading will repeat when the new value would expire,
+until
+.B reload-count
+reloads have happened for the entry,
+and only then will it actually be removed from the cache.
+A request from a client which hits the entry will
+reset the reload counter on the entry.
+Purging the cache using
+.I nscd\~-i
+overrides the reload logic and removes the entry.
+.PP
+Reloading has the effect of extending cache entry TTLs
+without compromising on cache coherency,
+at the cost of additional load on the backing name service.
+Whether this is a good idea on your system depends on
+details of your applications' behavior,
+your name service,
+and the effective TTL values of your cache entries.
+Note that for some name services
+(for example, DNS),
+the effective TTL is the value returned from the name service and
+.I not
+the value of the
+.B positive\-time\-to\-live
+attribute.
+.PP
+Please consider the following advice carefully:
+.IP \(bu
+If your application will make a second request for the same name,
+after more than 1 TTL but before
+.B reload\-count
+TTLs,
+and is sensitive to the latency of a cache miss,
+then reloading may be a good idea for you.
+.IP \(bu
+If your name service is configured to return very short TTLs,
+and your applications only make requests rarely under normal circumstances,
+then reloading may result in additional load on your backing name service
+without any benefit to applications,
+which is probably a bad idea for you.
+.IP \(bu
+If your name service capacity is limited,
+reloading may have the surprising effect of
+increasing load on your name service instead of reducing it,
+and may be a bad idea for you.
+.IP \(bu
+Setting
+.B reload\-count
+to
+.B unlimited
+is almost never a good idea,
+as it will result in a cache that never expires entries
+and puts never-ending additional load on the backing name service.
+.PP
+Some distributions have an init script for
+.BR nscd (8)
+with a
+.I reload
+command which uses
+.I nscd\~-i
+to purge the cache.
+That use of the word "reload" is entirely different
+from the "reloading" described here.
  .SH SEE ALSO
  .BR nscd (8)
  .\" .SH AUTHOR
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Alejandro Colomar
<http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>

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