Re: setlocale.3: Wording issues

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On 1/8/21 12:41 PM, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> On 1/8/21 10:26 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> On 1/7/21 7:32 PM, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote:
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> I don't understand what this paragraph means, I think it needs some wfix.
>>>
>>> Around setlocale.3:179:
>>> [
>>>        On  startup  of  the main program, the portable "C" locale is
>>>        selected as default.  A program may be made portable  to  all
>>>        locales by calling:
>>>
>>>            setlocale(LC_ALL, "");
>>>
>>>        after  program  initialization,  by using the values returned
>>>        from a localeconv(3) call for  locale-dependent  information,
>>>        by  using the multibyte and wide character functions for text
>>>        processing if MB_CUR_MAX > 1, and by  using  strcoll(3),  wc‐
>>>        scoll(3) or strxfrm(3), wcsxfrm(3) to compare strings.
>>>
>>> <<<Especially these last 2 lines
>>>
>>> ]
>>
>> I see what you mean. I had to read that a few times to parse it.
>> It looks like the text was added in 1999. I think the following
>> clarifies and preserves the meaning:
>>
>> [[
>>        On startup of the main program, the portable "C" locale is select‐
>>        ed  as  default.  A program may be made portable to all locales by
>>        calling:
>>
>>            setlocale(LC_ALL, "");
>>
>>        after program initialization, and then:
>>
>>        (a) using the values returned from a localeconv(3)  call  for  lo‐
>>            cale-dependent information;
>>
>>        (c) using the multibyte and wide character functions for text pro‐
>>            cessing if MB_CUR_MAX > 1; and
>>
>>        (c) using strcoll(3), wcscoll(3) or strxfrm(3), wcsxfrm(3) to com‐
>>            pare strings.
>> ]]
>>
>> What do you think?
> 
> Much better.
> 
> But I still don't get why [A, B or  C, D].  What does it mean?

I don't read it that way. I see it as: [A and (B and/or C and/or D].
Do you see what I mean?

Thanks,

Michael


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