missunderstanding, i do not want to discuss sizeof() vs define in this example you do: #define BUFLEN 4096 char buf[BUFLEN]; getgrent_r(&grp, buf, sizeof(buf), &grpp); so there is no real need for BUFLEN anymore so donig char buf[BUFLEN]; -> char buf[4096]; would remove BUFLEN ________________________________________ Von: Alejandro Colomar [colomar.6.4.3@xxxxxxxxx] Gesendet: Freitag, 11. September 2020 21:17 An: Walter Harms; mtk.manpages@xxxxxxxxx Cc: linux-man@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: Re: AW: [PATCH 12/24] getgrent_r.3: Use sizeof() to get buffer size (instead of hardcoding macro name) Hi Walter, On 2020-09-11 14:50, Walter Harms wrote: > BUFLEN should be remove completely or stay > > jm2c > wh Sorry that you weren't CC'd in the conversation we are having about it. You can have a look at it here: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-man/ab12151d-6951-2a36-2fc6-ea7eed538c45@xxxxxxxxx/T/#m423de347de6a64d099887d4ce615660d16d5b0e6 I'll CC you in the next reply there. Cheers, Alex