Re: [PATCH] pthread_kill.3: Update to match POSIX.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM Florian Weimer <fw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> * enh:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:38 PM Florian Weimer <fw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> * enh:
> >>
> >> > POSIX removed ESRCH years ago.
> >> >
> >> > In resolving http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1214 it was made
> >> > clear that callers can't rely on using signal 0 to test for the
> >> > continued existence of a thread. Update the man page to make it clearer
> >> > that this doesn't generally work (even if it sometimes seems to).
> >> >
> >> > See also the long explanation of why this is the case (and how to fix
> >> > your code) here:
> >> >
> >> > https://android.googlesource.com/platform/bionic/+/master/docs/status.md#invalid-handling-targetsdkversion-o
> >>
> >> Well, if you fix the thread exit race (like musl did, and glibc should
> >> as well, see bug 12889), you could get a reliable ESRCH as a side
> >> effect.  Pity that POSIX doesn't allow that.
> >
> > this isn't about the tid stored *in* the object that the pthread_t points to.
> >
> > like i (briefly) said in the commit message, this is because a
> > pthread_t is a pointer, so if you have an old pthread_t that's been
> > recycled... boom!
>
> Backing storage for a pthread_t object denoting a joinable thread
> cannot be recycled, so that's not the case here.  POSIX mandates
> returning success even if the implementation has detected that it must
> not send the signal because the thread has already terminated.

who said anything about joinable?

the cases we've seen in practice are that folks incorrectly believe
that pthread_kill(3) with a signal of 0 is a reliable way to test
whether a thread is still running.



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