On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:26 PM Florian Weimer <fw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > * Michael Kerrisk: > > The pidfd_send_signal() system call allows the avoidance of race > > conditions that occur when using traditional interfaces (such as > > kill(2)) to signal a process. The problem is that the traditional > > interfaces specify the target process via a process ID (PID), with > > the result that the sender may accidentally send a signal to the > > wrong process if the originally intended target process has termi‐ > > nated and its PID has been recycled for another process. By con‐ > > trast, a PID file descriptor is a stable reference to a specific > > process; if that process terminates, then the file descriptor > > ceases to be valid and the caller of pidfd_send_signal() is > > informed of this fact via an ESRCH error. > > It would be nice to explain somewhere how you can avoid the race using > a PID descriptor. Is there anything else besides CLONE_PIDFD? My favorite example here is that you could implement "killall" without PID reuse races. With /proc/$pid file descriptors, you could do it like this (rough pseudocode with missing error handling and resource leaks and such): for each pid { procfs_pid_fd = open("/proc/"+pid); if (procfs_pid_fd == -1) continue; comm_fd = openat(procfs_pid_fd, "comm"); if (comm_fd == -1) continue; char buf[1000]; int n = read(comm_fd, buf, sizeof(buf)-1); buf[n] = 0; if (strcmp(buf, expected_comm) == 0) { pidfd_send_signal(procfs_pid_fd, SIGKILL, NULL, 0); } } If you want to avoid using a procfs fd for this, I think you can still do it, the dance just gets more complicated: for each pid { procfs_pid_fd = open("/proc/"+pid); if (procfs_pid_fd == -1) continue; pid_fd = pidfd_open(pid, 0); if (pid_fd == -1) continue; /* at this point procfs_pid_fd and pid_fd may refer to different processes */ comm_fd = openat(procfs_pid_fd, "comm"); if (comm_fd == -1) continue; /* at this point we know that procfs_pid_fd and pid_fd refer to the same struct pid, because otherwise the procfs_pid_fd must point to a directory that throws -ESRCH for everything */ char buf[1000]; int n = read(comm_fd, buf, sizeof(buf)-1); buf[n] = 0; if (strcmp(buf, expected_comm) == 0) { pidfd_send_signal(pid_fd, SIGKILL, NULL, 0); } } But I don't think anyone is actually interested in using pidfds for this kind of usecase right now.