On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:27:27PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hello Eric,
>
> On 9/10/19 1:40 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >>> I have just spotted this conversation and I expect if you are going
> >>> to use this example it is probably good to document what is going
> >>> on so that people can follow along.
> >>
> >> (Sounds reasonable.)
> >>
> >>>>> chdir(rootfs)
> >>>>> pivot_root(".", ".")
> >>>
> >>> At this point the mount stack should be:
> >>> old_root
> >>> new_root
> >>> rootfs
> >>
> >> In this context, what is 'rootfs'? The initramfs? At least, when I
> >> examine /proc/PID/mountinfo. When I look at the / mount point in
> >> /proc/PID/mountinfo, I see just
> >>
> >> old_root
> >> new_root
> >>
> >> But nothing below 'new_root'. So, I'm a little puzzled.
> >
> > I think that is because Al changed /proc/mounts to not display mounts
> > that are outside of your current root. But yes there is typically
> > the initramfs of file system type rootfs on their. Even when it isn't
> > used you have one. Just to keep everything simple I presume.
> >
> > I haven't double checked lately to be certain it is there but I expect
> > it is.
> >
> >> By the way, why is 'old_root' stacked above 'new_root', do you know? I
> >> mean, in this scenario it turns out to be useful, but it's kind of the
> >> opposite from what I would have expected. (And if this was a
> >> deliverate design decision in pivot_root(), it was never made
> >> explicit.)
> >
> > Oh. It is absolutely explicit and part of the design and it has nothing
> > to do with this case.
> >
> > The pivot_root system calls takes two parameters: new_root and put_old.
> >
> > In this case the old root is put on put_old (which is the new_root).
> > And new_root is made the current root.
> >
> > The pivot_root code looks everything up before it moves anything. With
> > the result it is totally immaterrial which order the moves actually
> > happen in the code. Further it is pretty much necessary to look
> > everything up before things are moved because the definition of paths
> > change.
> >
> > So it would actually be difficult to have pivot_root(.,.) to do anything
> > except what it does today.
> >
> >
> >>> With "." and "/" pointing to new_root.
> >>>
> >>>>> umount2(".", MNT_DETACH)
> >>>
> >>> At this point resolving "." starts with new_root and follows up the
> >>> mount stack to old-root.
> >>
> >> Okay.
> >>
> >>> Ordinarily if you unmount "/" as is happening above you then need to
> >>> call chroot and possibly chdir to ensure neither "/" nor "." point to
> >>> somewhere other than the unmounted root filesystem. In this specific
> >>> case because "/" and "." resolve to new_root under the filesystem that is
> >>> being unmounted that all is well.
> >>
> >> s/that/then/ ?
>
> Thanks for the further clarifications.
>
> All: I plan to add the following text to the manual page:
>
> new_root and put_old may be the same directory. In particular,
> the following sequence allows a pivot-root operation without need‐
> ing to create and remove a temporary directory:
>
> chdir(new_root);
> pivot_root(".", ".");
> umount2(".", MNT_DETACH);
Hm, should we mention that MS_PRIVATE or MS_SLAVE is usually needed
before the umount2()? Especially for the container case... I think we
discussed this briefly yesterday in person.
>
> This sequence succeeds because the pivot_root() call stacks the
> old root mount point (old_root) on top of the new root mount point
> at /. At that point, the calling process's root directory and
> current working directory refer to the new root mount point
> (new_root). During the subsequent umount() call, resolution of
> "." starts with new_root and then moves up the list of mounts
> stacked at /, with the result that old_root is unmounted.
>
> Look okay?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
>
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