Re: man page update (fcntl(2) new set/get write hints)

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On 08/23/2017 04:41 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hello Jens,
> 
> On 07/31/2017 05:24 PM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Not sure what the best way to submit this is, but I wrote an
>> update for the fcntl man page to cover the new set/get write
>> hints commands that are added in 4.13. Attaching the patch, but
>> you can also find it below, in a fork of your github repo:
>>
>> https://github.com/axboe/man-pages/commits/fcntl-write-hints
> 
> Thanks for the patch. Some questions below.
> 
>> From 3eee36f14a650e50f14b42ae1d4fec33e78e6254 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Jens Axboe <axboe@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 16:58:29 -0600
>> Subject: [PATCH] man2/fcntl.2: add description of new read/write hint commands
>>
>> This adds a description of the new read/write hint commands:
>>
>> F_GET_RW_HINT		Get inode read/write hint
>> F_SET_RW_HINT		Set inode read/write hint
>> F_GET_FILE_RW_HINT	Get file read/write hint
>> F_SET_FILE_RW_HINT	Set file read/write hint
>>
>> and the currently available values, as of Linux 4.13.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <axboe@xxxxxxxxx>
>> ---
>>  man2/fcntl.2 | 58 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 58 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/man2/fcntl.2 b/man2/fcntl.2
>> index 70758d2fcd99..07eacc9564fa 100644
>> --- a/man2/fcntl.2
>> +++ b/man2/fcntl.2
>> @@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
>>  .\" and Copyright (C) 2002-2010, 2014 Michael Kerrisk;
>>  .\" and Copyright (C) 2014 Jeff Layton
>>  .\" and Copyright (C) 2014 David Herrmann
>> +.\" and Copyright (C) 2017 Jens Axboe
>>  .\"
>>  .\" %%%LICENSE_START(VERBATIM)
>>  .\" Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this
>> @@ -61,6 +62,8 @@
>>  .\"	Document F_SETPIPE_SZ and F_GETPIPE_SZ.
>>  .\" 2014-07-08, David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@xxxxxxxxx>
>>  .\"     Document F_ADD_SEALS and F_GET_SEALS
>> +.\" 2017-06-26, Jens Axboe <axboe@xxxxxxxxx>
>> +.\"     Document F_{GET,SET}_RW_HINT and F_{GET,SET}_FILE_RW_HINT
>>  .\"
>>  .TH FCNTL 2 2017-05-03 "Linux" "Linux Programmer's Manual"
>>  .SH NAME
>> @@ -1490,6 +1493,61 @@ Furthermore, if there are any asynchronous I/O operations
>>  .RB ( io_submit (2))
>>  pending on the file,
>>  all outstanding writes will be discarded.
>> +.SS File read/write hints
>> +Write life time hints can be used to inform the kernel about the relative
>> +expected life time of writes on a given inode or file. An application may
>> +use this interface for separating writes into different write classes,
>> +so that multiple users or applications running on a single storage back-end
>> +can aggregate their IO patterns in a consistent manner. However, there are
>> +no functional semantics implied by these flags, and different IO classes
>> +can use the write life time hints in arbitrary ways so long as they are used
>> +consistently.
> 
> I read the above, and it is still not clear to me what a "write lifetime" 
> is. Can you add some text to explain? (I'm guessing that it means the 
> amount of time before the data is overwritten by another write, but I'm
> not sure of that, and it needs to be more explicit in the text.)

You are right, it's exactly what it refers to. It's essentially data
lifetime hints for a write command. I'd be happy to take suggestions to
improve the description of it.

>> +.TP
>> +.BR F_GET_RW_HINT " (\fIuint64_t\fP; since Linux 4.13)"
>> +Returns the value of the read/write hint associated with the underlying inode
>> +for the file descriptor.
>> +.TP
>> +.BR F_SET_RW_HINT " (\fIuint64_t\fP; since Linux 4.13)"
>> +Sets the read/write hint value associated with the underlying inode for the
>> +file descriptor.
>> +.TP
>> +.BR F_GET_FILE_RW_HINT " (\fIuint64_t\fP; since Linux 4.13)"
>> +Returns the value of the read/write hint associated with the file descriptor.
> 
> Do you mean here "file descriptor" or "file description (i.e., the
> open file handle)? Maybe you mean the former, but I want to confirm.

I do mean file descriptor.

>> +.TP
>> +.BR F_SET_FILE_RW_HINT " (\fIuint64_t\fP; since Linux 4.13)"
>> +Sets the read/write hint value associated with the file descriptor.
> 
> Same as above comment.

Ditto.

-- 
Jens Axboe

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