Re: locale.5: refer to existing locales for encoding details

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On 08/07/2017 11:24 AM, Marko Myllynen wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Mike and Rafał (CC'ed) were recently named as glibc localedata
> maintainers [1] and after that there's been active development on
> this front, including discussion whether it would be ok to use
> ASCII or some other encoding as values for actual locate data.
> 
> Since I don't think it would make sense to try to have different
> explanation for each glibc version on the locale(5) man page, I'm
> proposing that we apply the below patch so that we refer to existing
> locale definition files in general and not spell out the exact format
> or any certain locale as a definitive guideline.
> 
> If the situation changes in the future or new a new convention meant
> to last forever is created then perhaps Mike and Rafał can provide an
> update then as needed.
> 
> 1) https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2017-07/msg00477.html
> 2) https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2017-07/msg00807.html

Thanks, Marko. Patch applied.

Cheers,

Michael

> ---
>  man5/locale.5 | 51 ++++++++++-----------------------------------------
>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 41 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/man5/locale.5 b/man5/locale.5
> index 3fff4f1..4816796 100644
> --- a/man5/locale.5
> +++ b/man5/locale.5
> @@ -68,19 +68,9 @@ where a
>  .I copy
>  statement can be followed by locale-specific rules and selected overrides.
>  .PP
> -When defining a category from scratch, all field descriptors and strings
> -should be defined as Unicode code points in angle brackets, unless
> -otherwise stated below.
> -For example, "€" is to be presented as "<U20AC>", "%a" as
> -"<U0025><U0061>", and "Monday" as
> -"<U0053><U0075><U006E><U0064><U0061><U0079>".
> -Values defined as Unicode code points must be in double quotes, plain
> -number values are not quoted (but
> -.BR LC_CTYPE
> -and
> -.BR LC_COLLATE
> -follow special formatting, see the system-provided locale files for
> -examples).
> +When defining a locale or a category from scratch, an existing system-
> +provided locale definition file should be used as a reference to follow
> +common glibc conventions.
>  .SS Locale category sections
>  The following category sections are defined by POSIX:
>  .IP * 3
> @@ -121,7 +111,6 @@ The definition starts with the string
>  in the first column.
> 
>  The following keywords are allowed:
> -.\" From localedata/locales/uk_UA
>  .TP
>  .I postal_fmt
>  followed by a string containing field descriptors that define
> @@ -209,7 +198,7 @@ followed by the two-letter abbreviation of the
> country (ISO 3166).
>  followed by the three-letter abbreviation of the country (ISO 3166).
>  .TP
>  .I country_num
> -followed by the numeric country code as plain numbers (ISO 3166).
> +followed by the numeric country code (ISO 3166).
>  .TP
>  .I country_car
>  followed by the international licence plate country code.
> @@ -422,8 +411,6 @@ Each mapping is a pair of a lowercase and an
> uppercase letter
>  separated with a
>  .B ,
>  and enclosed in parentheses.
> -The members of the list are separated
> -with semicolons.
>  .TP
>  .I tolower
>  followed by a list of mappings from uppercase to lowercase
> @@ -569,8 +556,6 @@ The definition starts with the string
>  .I LC_IDENTIFICATION
>  in the first column.
> 
> -The values in this category are defined as plain strings.
> -
>  The following keywords are allowed:
>  .TP
>  .I title
> @@ -697,16 +682,6 @@ The definition starts with the string
>  .I LC_MONETARY
>  in the first column.
> 
> -Values for
> -.IR int_curr_symbol ,
> -.IR currency_symbol ,
> -.IR mon_decimal_point ,
> -.IR mon_thousands_sep ,
> -.IR positive_sign ,
> -and
> -.IR negative_sign
> -are defined as Unicode code points, the others as plain numbers.
> -
>  The following keywords are allowed:
>  .TP
>  .I int_curr_symbol
> @@ -910,7 +885,6 @@ The allowed keywords are as follows:
>  followed by a string containing field descriptors that define
>  the format used for names in the locale.
>  The following field descriptors are recognized:
> -.\" From localedata/locales/uk_UA
>  .RS
>  .TP 4
>  %f
> @@ -998,8 +972,8 @@ followed by the string that will be used as a group
> separator
>  when formatting numeric quantities.
>  .TP
>  .I grouping
> -followed by a sequence of integers as plain numbers separated by
> -semicolons that describe the formatting of numeric quantities.
> +followed by a sequence of integers separated by semicolons
> +that describe the formatting of numeric quantities.
>  .IP
>  Each integer specifies the number of digits in a group.
>  The first integer defines the size of the group immediately
> @@ -1019,8 +993,6 @@ The definition starts with the string
>  .I LC_PAPER
>  in the first column.
> 
> -Values in this category are defined as plain numbers.
> -
>  The following keywords are allowed:
>  .TP
>  .I height
> @@ -1044,7 +1016,6 @@ The following keywords are allowed:
>  followed by a string that contains field descriptors that identify
>  the format used to dial international numbers.
>  The following field descriptors are recognized:
> -.\" From localedata/locales/uk_UA
>  .RS
>  .TP 4
>  %a
> @@ -1232,7 +1203,7 @@ descriptor (see
>  followed by the alternative digits used for date and time in the locale.
>  .TP
>  .I week
> -followed by a list of three values as plain numbers:
> +followed by a list of three values separated by semicolons:
>  The number of days in a week (by default 7),
>  a date of beginning of the week (by default corresponds to Sunday),
>  and the minimal length of the first week in year (by default 4).
> @@ -1249,7 +1220,7 @@ followed by the number of the first day from the
>  list to be shown in calendar applications.
>  The default value of
>  .B 1
> -(plain number) corresponds to either Sunday or Monday depending
> +corresponds to either Sunday or Monday depending
>  on the value of the second
>  .I week
>  list item.
> @@ -1260,13 +1231,11 @@ followed by the number of the first working day
> from the
>  .I day
>  list.
>  The default value is
> -.BR 2
> -(plain number).
> +.BR 2 .
>  See NOTES.
>  .TP
>  .I cal_direction
> -.\" From localedata/locales/uk_UA
> -followed by a plain number value that indicates the direction for the
> +followed by a number value that indicates the direction for the
>  display of calendar dates, as follows:
>  .RS
>  .TP 4
> 
> Thanks,
> 


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Michael Kerrisk
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