Re: [PATCH] prctl.2: add information regarding PR_SET_FP_MODE and PR_GET_FP_MODE options

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On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 06:26:37PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hello Eugene,
> 
> On 11/20/2016 03:59 PM, Eugene Syromyatnikov wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 12:27:28PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >> Hi Eugene,
> >>
> >> I have applied this patch and tweaked some pieces (and pushed to Git),
> >> but some parts need work still, I think. See my comments below.
> >>
> >> Rather than sending a patch, I think it would be easier if you just
> >> respond to my comments in line below.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/20/2016 01:55 AM, Eugene Syromyatnikov wrote:
> >>> Based on description provided in commit 9791554b and information in
> >>> https://dmz-portal.mips.com/wiki/MIPS_O32_ABI_-_FR0_and_FR1_Interlinking
> >>> ---
> >>>  man2/prctl.2 | 100 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>  1 file changed, 100 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/man2/prctl.2 b/man2/prctl.2
> >>> index ae1fbc5..954641c 100644
> >>> --- a/man2/prctl.2
> >>> +++ b/man2/prctl.2
> >>> @@ -263,6 +263,98 @@ or
> >>>  Return the endian-ness of the calling process,
> >>>  in the location pointed to by
> >>>  .IR "(int\ *) arg2" .
> >>> +.\" 9791554b45a2acc28247f66a5fd5bbc212a6b8c8
> >>> +.TP
> >>> +.BR PR_SET_FP_MODE " (since Linux 4.0, only on MIPS)"
> >>> +On MIPS, user land code can be built using ABI which permits linking with a code
> >>> +with a more restrictive floating point requirements.  For example, user land
> >>> +code may be built to target the O32 FPXX ABI and linked with code built for
> >>> +either one of the more restrictive FP32 or FP64. When more restrictive code is
> >>> +linked in, the overall requirement for the process is to use this more
> >>> +restrictive floating point mode. Since kernel has no means of knowing in advance
> >>> +which mode process should be executed in, and having possibility that these
> >>> +restrictions can be changed during the process' lifetime, 
> >>
> >> I have trouble to understand "and having possibility that these
> >> restrictions can be changed during the process' lifetime".
> >>
> >> I think the main problem is: who can do the changing?
> >> It's not clear from the sentence. Can you explain a little?
> >
> > Yes, you are correct; probably the note regarding the time of change is
> > rather misleading; the need for change which can be determined only from user
> > space is what has lead to such interface.
> 
> So, how would the wording be:
> 
> [[
> Because the kernel has no means of knowing in advance
> which mode the process should be executed in,
> and because the ABI restrictions can 
> change over the lifetime of the process, the
> .B PR_SET_FP_MODE
> operation is provided to allow control of the floating-point mode
> from user space.
> ]]

Loooks fine.

> >>> the ability to control
> >>> +it from the user space via this option is provided.
> >>
> >> Does "it" in the previous line mean "the floating-point mode"?
> > Yes.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> >>> +
> >>> +.\" https://dmz-portal.mips.com/wiki/MIPS_O32_ABI_-_FR0_and_FR1_Interlinking
> >>> +The
> >>> +.I (unsigned int) arg2
> >>> +argument is a bit mask describing floating point mode used:
> >>> +.RS
> >>> +.TP
> >>> +.BR PR_FP_MODE_FR " = " "(1 << 0)"
> >>
> >> I removed the piece [" = " "(1 << 0)"] (and similar below), since
> >> presumably user-space doesn't need to know the precise numeric
> >> values.
> > Yes, sure.
> 
> Okay.
> 
> >>> +When this bit is
> >>> +.I unset
> >>> +(so called
> >>> +.BR FR=0 " or " FR0
> >>> +mode), 32 FP registers are 32-bit wide, and 64-bit registers are represented as
> >>
> >> What are "32 FP registers"? (And again below.)
> >>
> >> Perhaps this is just a language issue. Should it be "the 32 FP registers"?
> >> (The lack of an article--"the" or "a"--can sometimes be fatal to 
> >> comprehension in English.)
> > Yes, you are correct, I meant the amount of floating point registers available.
> 
> Okay. Fixed.
> 
> >>> +pair of registers (even- and odd- numbered, with even-numbered register
> >>> +containing lower 32 bits, and odd-numbered register containing higher 32 bits).
> >>> +When this bit is
> >>> +.I set
> >>> +(on supported hardware), 32 FP registers are 64-bit wide (so called
> >>
> >> "the 32 FP registers"?
> > Right.
> 
> Fixed.
> 
> >>> +.BR FR=1 " or " FR1
> >>> +mode). Note that modern MIPS implementations (MIPS R6 and newer) support
> >>> +.B FR=1
> >>> +mode only.
> >>> +
> >>> +Applications that use O32 FP32 ABI can operate only when this bit is
> >>> +.I unset
> >>> +.RB ( FR=0 ;
> >>> +or they can be used with FRE enabled, see below).
> >>> +Applications that use O32 FP64 ABI (and O32 FP64A ABI, which exists for
> >>> +providing ability to operate with existing FP32 code; see below) can operate
> >>> +only when this bit is
> >>> +.I set
> >>> +.RB ( FR=1 ).
> >>> +Applications that use O32 FPXX ABI can operate in both cases.
> >>
> >> What does "both cases" mean in the above line?
> > Both in case of FR=0 and FR=1.
> 
> So, I made this:
> [[
> Applications that use the O32 FPXX ABI can operate in with either
> .BR FR=0
> or
> .BR FR=1 .
> ]]
> 
> Okay?

Yes, sure.

> >>> +.TP
> >>> +.BR PR_FP_MODE_FRE " = " "(1 << 1)"
> >>> +Compatibility with 32-bit FP mode. When this mode is enabled, it emulates 32-bit
> >>
> >> I think the first sentence needs at least one or two more words.  Is
> >>
> >>     Provide compatibility with 32-bit FP mode.
> >>
> >> correct?
> > Yes. Another possibility is "Enable emulation of 32-bit FP mode".
> 
> Ah that's better. Changed.
> 
> >>> +FP operations by raising reserved instruction exception on every instruction
> >>> +that uses 32-bit formats and kernel then handles the instruction in software
> >>> +(the problem lies in discrepancy of handling odd-numbered registers which are
> >>> +high 32 bits of 64-bit registers with even numbers in
> >>> +.B FR=0
> >>> +mode and lower 32-bit parts of odd-numbered 64-bit registers in
> >>> +.B FR=1
> >>> +mode). Enabling of this bit is needed when code with O32 FP32 ABI should operate
> >>> +with code with compatible O32 FPXX or O32 FP64A ABIs (which require
> >>> +.B FR=1
> >>> +FPU mode) or when it is executed on newer hardware (MIPS R6 onwards) which lacks
> >>> +.B FR=0
> >>> +mode support when binary with FP32 ABI is used.
> >>> +.IP
> >>> +Note that this mode only makes sense when FPU is in 64-bit mode
> >>> +.RB ( FR=1 .)
> >>> +.IP
> >>> +Note that usage of emulation inherently has a significant performance hit and
> >>> +should be avoided if possible.
> >>> +.RE
> >>> +.IP
> >>> +Note that for N32/N64 ABI is a different story and does not need FPU emulation
> >>> +and always operates in
> >>> +.B FR=1
> >>> +mode.
> >>
> >> That last sentence is a bit hard to parse. Would the following be okay:
> >>
> >> [[
> >> For the N32/N64 ABI, the story is different story: FPU emulation
> >> is not required and the FPU always operates in
> >> .B FR=1
> >> mode.
> >> ]]
> >>
> >> ?
> > Maybe
> > 
> > [[
> > In N32/N64 ABI, 64-bit FP mode is always used, so FPU emulation
> > is not required and the FPU always operates in
> > .B FR=1
> > mode.
> > ]]
> > 
> > ?
> 
> Good. Taken as you gave it. Thanks.
> 
> >>> +.IP
> >>> +This option is mainly intended for use by dynamic loader, but may be of use by
> >>> +applications in case library loading during runtime (via
> >>> +.BR dlopen (3),
> >>> +for example) is used.
> > Please discard the note regarding dlopen, I've incorrectly interpreted
> > the glibc code found in sysdeps/mips/tst-abi-interlink.c; looks like
> > glibc also accounts for libraries loaded via dlopen too (as noted in
> > sysdeps/mips/dl-machine-reject-phdr.h); as a result,
> > looks like this command is of little use for user applications and intended
> > mainly for libc implementations (or some very specific applications which
> > have to deal with pre-generated FP code, maybe).
> 
> So, then just replace those lines with:
> 
>     This option is mainly intended for use by dynamic loader.
> 
> ?

Yes, thanks.

> (Current version pushed to Git.)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michael
> 
> -- 
> Michael Kerrisk
> Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
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