On 09/23/2016 11:42 AM, David Laight wrote: > From: Vlastimil Babka >> Sent: 22 September 2016 18:55 > ... >> So in the case of select() it seems like the memory we need 6 bits per file >> descriptor, multiplied by the highest possible file descriptor (nfds) as passed >> to the syscall. According to the man page of select: >> >> EINVAL nfds is negative or exceeds the RLIMIT_NOFILE resource limit (see >> getrlimit(2)). > > That second clause is relatively recent. Interesting... so it was added without actually being true in the kernel code? >> The code actually seems to silently cap the value instead of returning EINVAL >> though? (IIUC): >> >> /* max_fds can increase, so grab it once to avoid race */ >> rcu_read_lock(); >> fdt = files_fdtable(current->files); >> max_fds = fdt->max_fds; >> rcu_read_unlock(); >> if (n > max_fds) >> n = max_fds; >> >> The default for this cap seems to be 1024 where I checked (again, IIUC, it's >> what ulimit -n returns?). I wasn't able to change it to more than 2048, which >> makes the bitmaps still below PAGE_SIZE. >> >> So if I get that right, the system admin would have to allow really large >> RLIMIT_NOFILE to even make vmalloc() possible here. So I don't see it as a large >> concern? > > 4k open files isn't that many. > Especially for programs that are using pipes to emulate windows events. Sure but IIUC we need 6 bits per file. That means up to almost 42k files, we should fit into order-3 allocation, which effectively cannot fail right now. > I suspect that fdt->max_fds is an upper bound for the highest fd the > process has open - not the RLIMIT_NOFILE value. I gathered that the highest fd effectively limits the number of files, so it's the same. I might be wrong. > select() shouldn't be silently ignoring large values of 'n' unless > the fd_set bits are zero. Yeah that doesn't seem to conform to the manpage. > Of course, select does scale well for high numbered fds > and neither poll nor select scale well for large numbers of fds. True. > David > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html