On 12/16/2015 07:50 PM, Jörn Engel wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 07:44:16PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man7.org) wrote: >> On 28 October 2015 at 02:05, Jörn Engel <joern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Hello Michael! >>> >>> Just came across this. When reading the manpage MLOCK(2), I assume that >>> mlockall(MCL_FUTURE) does _not_ imply MAP_POPULATE. But when reading >>> the code, I see that it does. >>> >>> This little detail can be rather crucial for RT-people, so it might be >>> worth spelling it out explicitly in the manpage. >> >> But, this detail doesn't seem so surprising to me. MCL_FUTURE == new >> pages that are mapped will be locked. Of course they must be populated >> into memory when the mapping is created. Or: to put it another way, >> maybe it would help if you explain why you find the behavior >> surprising. That might give me a clue about what should be fixed in >> the man page. >> >> But, please take this thread to mtk.manpages@xxxxxxxxx, and cc >> linux-man@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. > > Done. :) > > I guess it is a judgement call now. One fool (me) made the wrong > assumption and had to a) get into an argument with a coworker and b) > check the code to realize the mistake. If fools like me are common, it > might be worth making this point explicit. If I am the oddball, it > would be wasting file size and reading time for everyone else. So, I just realized that a recent change to the API, plus its associated documentation in the mlock(2) pages actually probably lessens the chance of this mistake. The next release of man-pages will include documentation of MCL_ONFAULT: MCL_CURRENT Lock all pages which are currently mapped into the address space of the process. MCL_FUTURE Lock all pages which will become mapped into the address space of the process in the future. These could be, for instance, new pages required by a growing heap and stack as well as new memory-mapped files or shared memory regions. MCL_ONFAULT (since Linux 4.4) Used together with MCL_CURRENT, MCL_FUTURE, or both. Mark all current (with MCL_CURRENT) or future (with MCL_FUTURE) mappings to lock pages when they are faulted in. When used with MCL_CUR‐ RENT, all present pages are locked, but mlockall() will not fault in non-present pages. When used with MCL_FUTURE, all future mappings will be marked to lock pages when they are faulted in, but they will not be populated by the lock when the mapping is created. MCL_ONFAULT must be used with either MCL_CURRENT or MCL_FUTURE or both. Do you think that text helps? Cheers, Michael -- Michael Kerrisk Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html