Re: ptrace.2: BUGS (missing WIFEXITED notification)

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Hi Vegard,

On 15 May 2015 at 12:12, Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 05/14/2015 06:39 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>>
>> On 05/14/2015 06:28 PM, Quentin Casasnovas wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 03:52:36PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 05/14/2015 03:44 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Denys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any thoughts on the below?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the poster is right: this part needs fixing, the behavior is
>>>> the same on any kind of process termination.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/12/2015 04:31 PM, Vegard Nossum wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We hit another edge case in the ptrace() interface and after several
>>>>>> hours of chasing it down, we found that it was already described in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> "BUGS" section:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "If a thread group leader is traced and exits by calling _exit(2), a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think a possible fix is just to replace "exits by calling _exit(2)"
>>>> part
>>>> of the above text with "terminates".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Should we also add a little paragraph detailing that waitpid() would hang
>>> indefinitely if one thread terminates while the others are in
>>> ptrace-stop?
>>
>>
>> It implies this by saying "but the subsequent WIFEXITED notification
>> will not be delivered until all other threads exit".
>>
>> If another thread is in ptrace-stop, it did not exit yet. Therefore,
>> WIFEXITED notification to the thread group leader will not be delivered.
>> Therefore, waitpid() on it would hang.
>
>
> While I agree that the information in the current man page is strictly
> speaking sufficient, I personally still think it would be an improvement
> to mention it explicitly (i.e. my proposed change #2 in the original
> e-mail). Just because I think it's a sort of non-obvious pitfall; out of
> hand, you don't expect a call to waitpid() on a process that has exited
> to hang. That's just my opinion, though.

That sounds okay to me. Would you and/or Quentin be willing to put
together a patch to the man page?

Thanks,

Michael



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