https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84701 Bug ID: 84701 Summary: execve(2) manual page ".sh" usage exposes implementation detail Product: Documentation Version: unspecified Hardware: All OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P1 Component: man-pages Assignee: documentation_man-pages@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Reporter: erlkonig@xxxxxxxxxxxx Regression: No This content: We can also use these programs to demonstrate the use of a script interpreter. To do this we create a script whose "interpreter" is our myecho program: $ cat > script.sh #! ./myecho script-arg ^D $ chmod +x script.sh We can then use our program to exec the script: $ ./execve ./script.sh argv[0]: ./myecho argv[1]: script-arg argv[2]: ./script.sh argv[3]: hello argv[4]: world Should probably instead read: We can also use these programs to demonstrate the use of a script interpreter. To do this we create a script whose "interpreter" is our myecho program: $ cat > script #!./myecho script-arg ^D $ chmod +x script We can then use our program to exec the script: $ ./execve ./script argv[0]: ./myecho argv[1]: script-arg argv[2]: ./script argv[3]: hello argv[4]: world Rationale: 1) Command name extensions considered harmful: Adding ".sh", or any other unneeded extension, unnecessarily duplicates meta information already present in the interpreter directive, exposing an implementation detail that then ends up explicitly part of other programs running this one. Later, when such a script is replaced with a new version in Python, C, etc., the useless ".sh" has to be retained to avoid breaking those other programs' calls to this one, and now has a stark antifunction of lying about the script's content and occasionally causing admins to run undefined experiments as root (like "bash -x ./reallyperlscript.sh"). Such extensions, while fine in DOS which ignores extensions explicitly, is a serious flaw in Unix-targeted script writing. Canonical documentation from the Linux manual should not support such a flawed idiom - recommending against it would be preferred. A more extensive rant against them can be found at: http://www.talisman.org/~erlkonig/documents/commandname-extensions-considered-harmful 2) The space after "#!" in the interpreter directive is minor - and the kernel's fs/binfmt_script.c specifically allows for it - but versions of unix have length limits from ~30 characters to linux's 127 or so (if that number's correct) so the space does have a cost. Most scripts I've seen lack that space, and there's no real reason to encourage it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html