Re: sched_{set,get}attr() manpage

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Il 10/04/2014 09:47, Juri Lelli ha scritto:
Hi all,

On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 17:42:04 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 05:19:11PM +0200, Henrik Austad wrote:
	The following "real-time" policies are also supported, for
why the "'s?
I borrowed those from SCHED_SETSCHEDULER(2).

	sched_attr::sched_flags additional flags that can influence
	scheduling behaviour. Currently as per Linux kernel 3.14:

		SCHED_FLAG_RESET_ON_FORK - resets the scheduling policy
		to: (struct sched_attr){ .sched_policy = SCHED_OTHER, }
		on fork().

	is the only supported flag.
...

	The flags argument should be 0.
What about SCHED_FLAG_RESET_ON_FOR?
Different flags. The one is sched_attr::flags the other is
sched_setattr(.flags).

	The other sched_attr fields are filled out as described in
	sched_setattr().

    Scheduling Policies
        The  scheduler  is  the  kernel  component  that decides which runnable
        process will be executed by the CPU next.  Each process has an  associ‐
        ated  scheduling  policy and a static scheduling priority, sched_prior‐
        ity; these are the settings that are modified by  sched_setscheduler().
        The  scheduler  makes it decisions based on knowledge of the scheduling
        policy and static priority of all processes on the system.
Isn't this last sentence redundant/sliglhtly repetitive?
I borrowed that from SCHED_SETSCHEDULER(2) again.

     SCHED_DEADLINE: Sporadic task model deadline scheduling
	SCHED_DEADLINE is an implementation of GEDF (Global Earliest
	Deadline First) with additional CBS (Constant Bandwidth Server).
	The CBS guarantees that tasks that over-run their specified
	budget are throttled and do not affect the correct performance
	of other SCHED_DEADLINE tasks.

	SCHED_DEADLINE tasks will fail FORK(2) with -EAGAIN

	Setting SCHED_DEADLINE can fail with -EINVAL when admission
	control tests fail.
Perhaps add a note about the deadline-class having higher priority than the
other classes; i.e. if a deadline-task is runnable, it will preempt any
other SCHED_(RR|FIFO) regardless of priority?
Yes, good point, will do.

    SCHED_FIFO: First In-First Out scheduling
        SCHED_FIFO can only be used with static priorities higher than 0, which
        means that when a SCHED_FIFO processes becomes runnable, it will always
        immediately preempt any currently running SCHED_OTHER, SCHED_BATCH,  or
        SCHED_IDLE  process.  SCHED_FIFO is a simple scheduling algorithm with‐
        out time slicing.  For processes scheduled under the SCHED_FIFO policy,
        the following rules apply:

        *  A  SCHED_FIFO  process that has been preempted by another process of
           higher priority will stay at the head of the list for  its  priority
           and  will resume execution as soon as all processes of higher prior‐
           ity are blocked again.

        *  When a SCHED_FIFO process becomes runnable, it will be  inserted  at
           the end of the list for its priority.

        *  A  call  to  sched_setscheduler()  or sched_setparam(2) will put the
           SCHED_FIFO (or SCHED_RR) process identified by pid at the  start  of
           the  list  if it was runnable.  As a consequence, it may preempt the
           currently  running  process   if   it   has   the   same   priority.
           (POSIX.1-2001 specifies that the process should go to the end of the
           list.)

        *  A process calling sched_yield(2) will be put at the end of the list.
How about the recent discussion regarding sched_yield(). Is this correct?

lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.02.1403312333100.14882@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Is this the correct place to add a note explaining te potentional pitfalls
using sched_yield?
I'm not sure; there's a SCHED_YIELD(2) manpage to fill with that
nonsense.

Also; I realized I have not described the DEADLINE sched_yield()
behaviour.

So, for SCHED_DEADLINE we currently have this behaviour:

/*
  * Yield task semantic for -deadline tasks is:
  *
  *   get off from the CPU until our next instance, with
  *   a new runtime. This is of little use now, since we
  *   don't have a bandwidth reclaiming mechanism. Anyway,
  *   bandwidth reclaiming is planned for the future, and
  *   yield_task_dl will indicate that some spare budget
  *   is available for other task instances to use it.
  */

But, considering also the discussion above, I'm less sure now that's
what we want. Still, I think we will want some way in the future to be
able to say "I'm finished with my current job, give this remaining
runtime to someone else", like another syscall or something.

Hi Juri, hi Peter,

my two cents:

A syscall to block the task until its next instance is definitely useful.
This way, a periodic task doesn't have to sleep anymore: the kernel takes care of unblocking the task at the right moment.
This would be easier (for user-level) and more efficient too.
I don't know if using sched_yield() to get this behavior is a good choice or not. You have ways more experience than me :)

Best,

        Claudio

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