https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60602 Bug ID: 60602 Summary: clock_gettime(): Note on SMP systems outdated ? Product: Documentation Version: unspecified Hardware: All OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P1 Component: man-pages Assignee: documentation_man-pages@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Reporter: rodrigo@xxxxxxxxxxx Regression: No Hi! On the manpage of clock_gettime() there is a note for SMP systems. You can see it here for example: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/clock_gettime.2.html. Also, in my debian stable system there is the same note (manpages-dev 3.44-1). The note says: If the CPUs in an SMP system have different clock sources then there is no way to maintain a correlation between the timer registers since each CPU will run at a slightly different frequency. If that is the case then clock_getcpuclockid(0) will return ENOENT to signify this condition. The two clocks will then be useful only if it can be ensured that a process stays on a certain CPU. Looking at clock_getcpuclockid() manpage, you can see that it takes two parameters. So, doing exactly "clock_getcpuclockid(0)" does not work. Also, ENOENT is not a documented error code. And if you interpret the zero as the pid param to clock_getcpuclockid(), it doesn't seem to check if it's SMP safe either. There is even a note on clock_getcpuclockid() that clearly says: Calling clock_gettime(2) with the clock ID obtained by a call to clock_getcpuclockid() with a pid of 0, is the same as using the clock ID CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID. So there is no reason to think it will fail on systems where clock_gettime() is not SMP safe, I think. I tried to check the code used for clock_gettime() with CLOCK_THREAD_CPUTIME_ID as a clock in x86/x86_64 and see if I can get any clue. On arch x86 clock_gettime uses VDSO, but for this clock type it fallsback to a syscall. And following the code, clock_gettime() seems to be implemented on kernel/posix-cpu-timers.c, with thread_cpu_clock_get(). It then calls posix_cpu_clock_get() with THREAD_CLOCK as param. THREAD_CLOCK is, basically (following all the macros): (0 << 3) | 0010 | 0100 ==> 1000 | 0010 | 0100 ==> 1110 The call to CPUCLOCK_WHICH inside posix_cpu_clock_get(), then, does (keep in mind 1110 is the value for THREAD_CLOCK): 1110 & 0011 ==> 0010 ==> 2 Then CPUCLOCK_SCHED is used in the switch and task_sched_runtime() is used to calculate it. The code for task_sched_runtime() is in kernel/sched/core.c so I think it is SMP safe, as is in the scheduler. And it *seem* to use ns precision as the comment on do_task_delta_exec() says. So, on one hand, I don't understand the note on SMP systems and I think if it's clarified would be better. And, on the other, maybe it's outdated and is SMP safe now (on archs that uses kernel/posix-cpu-timers.c for the implementation) ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html