Hi Andries! Nice to hear from you again! On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Andries E. Brouwer <Andries.Brouwer@xxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 11:34:54PM +0200, Richard B. Kreckel wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> On 11/27/2010 08:37 AM, Michael Kerrisk wrote: >> >Hi Andries, >> > >> >Since you are the mathematician, can you comment? > > Hi everybody, > > Now that I see this discussion again: > Mathematically speaking there is no unique correct definitions. > The function is multiple-valued and some arbitrary agreement > fixes one of the values. > > Richard's point of view is that the actual behavior of the library functions > should be documented. Not a bad idea, but perhaps one should document what > the standard says, and then file a bug report in case the implementation > does something else. > > I lost most of my old docs, but just rediscovered a copy of > ISO-C-FDIS.1999-04.pdf, I don't know whether that still is the > appropriate source to consult. > > (i) > It says in 7.3.1: cacos: branch cuts outside [-1,1] along the real axis > returns arccos z where Re arccos z lies in [0,pi]. > So, if z = cos w then w = arccos z, but because cos (w + 2pi) = cos w > and cos (-w) = cos w, we can pick w with real part in [0,pi]. > > It says in 7.3.7.2: clog: branch cut along the negative real axis > returns log z where Im log z lies in [-I*pi,I*pi]. > > It says in 7.3.8.3: csqrt: branch cut along the negative real axis > returns sqrt z where Im sqrt z >= 0. > > We want to check whether it is true that > cacos(z) = -I* clog(z + I*csqrt(1 - z * z)) > > Suppose w = cacos(z). Then w is defined by cos w = z and Re w in [0,pi]. > The question is whether iw = log(cos w + i sqrt(sin^2 w)). > If sin w has nonnegative imaginary part, then sqrt(sin^2 w) = sin w > and the question is whether iw = log(e^{iw}). This logarithm is > chosen with imaginary part in [-pi,pi] but w has imaginary part > in [0,pi], so this equality holds. > If sin w has negative imaginary part, then sqrt(sin^2 w) = -sin w > and the question is whether iw = log(e^{-iw}), and again this holds. > > I agree with Richard's equation. > > (ii) > Claim: catan(z) = (clog(1 + iz) - clog(1 - iz)) / 2i > > 7.3.5.3: catan: branch cuts outside [-i,i] along the imaginary axis > returns atan z where Re atan z lies in [-pi/2, pi/2]. > > Suppose w = catan(z). Then w is defined by tan w = z and Re w in [-pi/2, pi/2]. > Up to a multiple of 2pi*i the RHS is > (1/2i)log((cos w + i sin w)/(cos w - i sin w)) = (1/2i) log e^{2iw}, > looks good. The two multiples of 2pi*i partially cancel, so after > dividing by 2i this is in [-pi/2, pi/2]. > > I agree with Richard's equation. > > (iii) > Claim: catanh(z) = (clog(1 + z) - clog(1 - z))/2 > > 7.3.6.3: catanh: branch cuts outside [-1,1] along the real axis > returns atanh z where Im atanh z lies in [-pi/2,pi/2]. > > Suppose w = catanh(z). > Then w is defined by tanh w = z and Re w in [-pi/2,pi/2]. > Up to a multiple of 2pi*i the RHS is correct, and just like before > we get the right value. > > I agree with Richard's equation. > > So, if I make no mistake, Richard is correct on all counts. Thanks very much for the above analysis. I'm happy to have a second mathematician confirm what the first one says, Best regards, Michael -- Michael Kerrisk Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ Author of "The Linux Programming Interface"; http://man7.org/tlpi/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html