On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 05:22:09PM +0100, Thorsten Otto wrote:
i'm currently trying to port the software FPU emulation of linux-m68k to FreeMiNT, and got some questions about it. the FPSP for 040/060 are not installed when the software emulation is used. However, almost all trigonometric functions are not implemented: https:// github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/7eb172143d5508b4da468ed59ee857c6e5e01da6/arch/ m68k/math-emu/fp_trig.c#L21-L28
The FPSP code relies on having the basic FPU of the 040 or 060 and uses the actual floating point registers and the FPU instructions which are implemented in hardware. On the variants without the built-in FPU, it's expected that the FPU emulator handles all of it since that's faster than triggering the emulator for each FPU instruction used in FPSP.
What sense does it then make to use an emulation, when only basic instructions like fadd/fmul etc. are implemented? Programs are not even aborted when using one of those functions, uprint just prints an error message, and the functions just return with their input arguments as result instead of calculating the expected value.
Well, most programs that use FPU instructions aren't going to use anything beyond the basics. The 68881/68882 are kind of unusual in implementing all of that in hardware. That's why Motorola cut down the instruction set implemented in hardware when they created the 68040. The extra chip space wasn't worth the limited usage. The fact that the emulator ignores the instructions is not correct, obviously.
So essentially: is that emulation actually used anywhere?
In practice, no. There's a lot of other issues as well. I seem to recall that it only supports the 020/030 and not the versions of the 040/060 without FPU. It also doesn't fully implement all the stuff like rounding modes. It's just a basic outline of how to emulate an FPU rather than something actually useful. The advice has always been to use a full 68040/68060 or add a real 68881/68882 chip to the 020/030 systems. Most of them do have a socket for it or a way to add one. I think there's only a couple 030 Mac models that don't have that option available. For example, I made sure to get the expansion card for my IIsi that adds the FPU socket. I'm not sure what the status is for the other platforms, but I got the impression that the Amiga systems pretty much all run in practice with CPU upgrades beyond the factory-original configuration. Most existing 68LC040 chips also have the bug that causes missed page faults after software-emulated instructions as well, making it even less useful to support FPU emulation for them. I think the PB190 is the only Mac with a 68LC040 new enough to be using the fixed mask revision. Most desktop systems back then used sockets for the main CPU making it possible to swap a 68LC040 for the full 68040. Brad Boyer flar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
