Re: [PATCH v4 01/11] timekeeping: add raw clock fallback for random_get_entropy()

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On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 6:55 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The addition of random_get_entropy_fallback() provides access to
whichever time source has the highest frequency, which is useful for
gathering entropy on platforms without available cycle counters. It's
not necessarily as good as being able to quickly access a cycle counter
that the CPU has, but it's still something, even when it falls back to
being jiffies-based.

In the event that a given arch does not define get_cycles(), falling
back to the get_cycles() default implementation that returns 0 is really
not the best we can do. Instead, at least calling
random_get_entropy_fallback() would be preferable, because that always
needs to return _something_, even falling back to jiffies eventually.
It's not as though random_get_entropy_fallback() is super high precision
or guaranteed to be entropic, but basically anything that's not zero all
the time is better than returning zero all the time.

Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@xxxxxxx>
Signed-off-by: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@xxxxxxxxx>
---
 include/linux/timex.h     |  8 ++++++++
 kernel/time/timekeeping.c | 10 ++++++++++
 2 files changed, 18 insertions(+)

diff --git a/include/linux/timex.h b/include/linux/timex.h
index 5745c90c8800..fbbe34226044 100644
--- a/include/linux/timex.h
+++ b/include/linux/timex.h
@@ -62,6 +62,8 @@
 #include <linux/types.h>
 #include <linux/param.h>

+extern unsigned long random_get_entropy_fallback(void);
+
 #include <asm/timex.h>

 #ifndef random_get_entropy
@@ -74,8 +76,14 @@
  *
  * By default we use get_cycles() for this purpose, but individual
  * architectures may override this in their asm/timex.h header file.
+ * If a given arch does not have get_cycles(), then we fallback to

'does not have a usable get_cycles(), ...' as clearly some arches have
get_cycles() and yet still need a fallback.

Why not handle the 'if get_cycles() returns 0 do the fallback' within
a weak random_get_entropy() function? Then more arches don't need any
random_get_entropy() implementation.

Rob



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