On 10/18/21 5:17 PM, Finn Thain wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2021, Jens Axboe wrote:
It is much more difficult to report regressions than it is to use a
workaround (i.e. boot a known good kernel). And I have plenty of
sympathy for end-users who may assume that the people and corporations
who create the breakage will take responsibility for fixing it.
We're talking about a floppy driver here, and one for ATARI no less.
It's not much of a leap of faith to assume that
a) those users are more savvy than the average computer user, as they
have to compile their own kernels anyway.
b) that there are essentially zero of them left. The number is clearly
different from zero, but I doubt by much.
Well, that assumption is as dangerous as any. The floppy interface is
still important even if most of the old mechanisms have been replaced.
http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/
https://amigastore.eu/en/220-sd-floppy-emulator-rev-c.html
https://www.bigmessowires.com/floppy-emu/
Hence it would stand to reason that if someone was indeed in the group
of ATARI floppy users that they would know how to report a bug.
Yes, it would if the premise was valid. But the premise is just a flawed
assumption.
Oh please, can we skip the empty words, this is tiresome and
unproductive. Since you apparently have a much better grasp on this than
I do, answer me this:
1) How many users of ataflop are there?
2) How big of a subset of that group are capable of figuring out where
to send a bug report?
By your reasoning, any bug would go unreported for years, no matter how
big the user group is. That is patently false. It's most commonly a
combination of how hard it is to hit, and how many can potentially hit
it. Yes, some people will work around a bug, but others will not. Hence
a subset of people that hit it will report it. Decades of bug reports
have proven this to be true on my end.
Nobody has reported the ataflop issue in 3 years. Either these people
never upgrade (which may be true), or none of them are using ataflop.
It's as simple as that.
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Jens Axboe
