RE: [Linuxarm] Re: [PATCH for-next 00/32] spin lock usage optimization for SCSI drivers

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On Mon, 22 Feb 2021, Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) wrote:

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, Xiaofei Tan wrote:

On 2021/2/9 13:06, Finn Thain wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) wrote:

On Sun, 7 Feb 2021, Xiaofei Tan wrote:

Replace spin_lock_irqsave with spin_lock in hard IRQ of SCSI 
drivers. There are no function changes, but may speed up if 
interrupt happen too often.

This change doesn't necessarily work on platforms that support 
nested interrupts.

Were you able to measure any benefit from this change on some 
other platform?

I think the code disabling irq in hardIRQ is simply wrong. Since 
this commit
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=e58aa3d2d0cc
genirq: Run irq handlers with interrupts disabled

interrupt handlers are definitely running in a irq-disabled 
context unless irq handlers enable them explicitly in the 
handler to permit other interrupts.


Repeating the same claim does not somehow make it true. If you put 
your claim to the test, you'll see that that interrupts are not 
disabled on m68k when interrupt handlers execute.

The Interrupt Priority Level (IPL) can prevent any given irq 
handler from being re-entered, but an irq with a higher priority 
level may be handled during execution of a lower priority irq 
handler.

sonic_interrupt() uses an irq lock within an interrupt handler to 
avoid issues relating to this. This kind of locking may be needed 
in the drivers you are trying to patch. Or it might not. 
Apparently, no-one has looked.


According to your discussion with Barry, it seems that m68k is a 
little different from other architecture, and this kind of 
modification of this patch cannot be applied to m68k. So, could help 
to point out which driver belong to m68k architecture in this patch 
set of SCSI? I can remove them.


If you would claim that "there are no function changes" in your 
patches (as above) then the onus is on you to support that claim.

I assume that there are some platforms on which your assumptions hold.

With regard to drivers for those platforms, you might want to explain 
why your patches should be applied there, given that the existing code 
is superior for being more portable.

I don't think it has nothing to do with portability. In the case of 
sonic_interrupt() you pointed out, on m68k, there is a high-priority 
interrupt can preempt low-priority interrupt, they will result in access 
the same critical data. M68K's spin_lock_irqsave() can disable the 
high-priority interrupt and avoid the race condition of the data. So the 
case should not be touched. I'd like to accept the reality and leave 
sonic_interrupt() alone.

However, even on m68k, spin_lock_irqsave is not needed for other
ordinary cases.
If there is no other irq handler coming to access same critical data,
it is pointless to hold a redundant irqsave lock in irqhandler even
on m68k.

In thread contexts, we always need that if an irqhandler can preempt 
those threads and access the same data. In hardirq, if there is an 
high-priority which can jump out on m68k to access the critical data 
which needs protection, we use the spin_lock_irqsave as you have used in 
sonic_interrupt(). Otherwise, the irqsave is also redundant for m68k.


BTW, sonic_interrupt() is from net driver natsemi, right?  It would 
be appreciative if only discuss SCSI drivers in this patch set. 
thanks.


The 'net' subsystem does have some different requirements than the 
'scsi' subsystem. But I don't see how that's relevant. Perhaps you can 
explain it. Thanks.

The difference is that if there are two co-existing interrupts which can 
access the same critical data on m68k. I don't think net and scsi 
matter. What really matters is the specific driver.


Regarding m68k, your analysis overlooks the timing issue. E.g. patch 11/32 
could be a problem because removing the irqsave would allow PDMA transfers 
to be interrupted. Aside from the timing issues, I agree with your 
analysis above regarding m68k.

With regard to other architectures and platforms, in specific cases, e.g. 
where there's never more than one IRQ involved, then I could agree that 
your assumptions probably hold and an irqsave would be probably redundant.

When you find a redundant irqsave, to actually patch it would bring a risk 
of regression with little or no reward. It's not my place to veto this 
entire patch series on that basis but IMO this kind of churn is misguided.

Thanks
Barry





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