Hi, On 5/31/24 2:54 PM, Andrew Lunn wrote: >> I actually have been looking at a ledtrig-netdev lockdep warning yesterday >> which I believe is the same thing. I'll include the lockdep trace below. >> >> According to lockdep there indeed is a ABBA (ish) cyclic deadlock with >> the rtnl mutex vs led-triggers related locks. I believe that this problem >> may be a pre-existing problem but this now actually gets hit in kernels >= >> 6.9 because of commit 66601a29bb23 ("leds: class: If no default trigger is >> given, make hw_control trigger the default trigger"). Before that commit >> the "netdev" trigger would not be bound / set as phy LEDs trigger by default. >> >> +Cc Heiner Kallweit who authored that commit. >> >> The netdev trigger typically is not needed because the PHY LEDs are typically >> under hw-control and the netdev trigger even tries to leave things that way >> so setting it as the active trigger for the LED class device is basically >> a no-op. I guess the goal of that commit is correctly have the triggers >> file content reflect that the LED is controlled by a netdev and to allow >> changing the hw-control mode without the user first needing to set netdev >> as trigger before being able to change the mode. > > It was not the intention that this triggers is loaded for all > systems. Right note there are really 2 separate issues (or 1 issue and one question) here: 1. The locking issue which this commit has exposed (but existed before) 2. If it is desirable to load / activate ledtrig-netdev by default on quite a lot of machines where it does not really gain us anything ? For now I think we should focus on 1. Still about 2: > It should only be those that actually have LEDs which can be > controlled: > > drivers/net/ethernet/realtek/r8169_leds.c: led_cdev->hw_control_trigger = "netdev"; > drivers/net/ethernet/realtek/r8169_leds.c: led_cdev->hw_control_trigger = "netdev"; > drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igc/igc_leds.c: led_cdev->hw_control_trigger = "netdev"; > drivers/net/dsa/qca/qca8k-leds.c: port_led->cdev.hw_control_trigger = "netdev"; > drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c: cdev->hw_control_trigger = "netdev"; Well those drivers combined, esp. with the generic phy_device in there does mean that the ledtrig-netdev module now gets loaded on a whole lot of x86 machines where before it would not. On one hand those machines are plenty powerful typically, so what is one more module. OTOH I don't think many users if any at all want to change the hwcontrol mode for those LEDs... > Reverting this patch does seem like a good way forward, but i would > also like to give Heiner a little bit of time to see if he has a quick > real fix. Ack. Regards, Hans