Re: [PATCH v3 4/8] mm: userfaultfd: add new UFFDIO_POISON ioctl

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On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 03:50:32PM -0700, Axel Rasmussen wrote:
> The basic idea here is to "simulate" memory poisoning for VMs. A VM
> running on some host might encounter a memory error, after which some
> page(s) are poisoned (i.e., future accesses SIGBUS). They expect that
> once poisoned, pages can never become "un-poisoned". So, when we live
> migrate the VM, we need to preserve the poisoned status of these pages.
> 
> When live migrating, we try to get the guest running on its new host as
> quickly as possible. So, we start it running before all memory has been
> copied, and before we're certain which pages should be poisoned or not.
> 
> So the basic way to use this new feature is:
> 
> - On the new host, the guest's memory is registered with userfaultfd, in
>   either MISSING or MINOR mode (doesn't really matter for this purpose).
> - On any first access, we get a userfaultfd event. At this point we can
>   communicate with the old host to find out if the page was poisoned.
> - If so, we can respond with a UFFDIO_POISON - this places a swap marker
>   so any future accesses will SIGBUS. Because the pte is now "present",
>   future accesses won't generate more userfaultfd events, they'll just
>   SIGBUS directly.
> 
> UFFDIO_POISON does not handle unmapping previously-present PTEs. This
> isn't needed, because during live migration we want to intercept
> all accesses with userfaultfd (not just writes, so WP mode isn't useful
> for this). So whether minor or missing mode is being used (or both), the
> PTE won't be present in any case, so handling that case isn't needed.
> 
> Similarly, UFFDIO_POISON won't replace existing PTE markers. This might
> be okay to do, but it seems to be safer to just refuse to overwrite any
> existing entry (like a UFFD_WP PTE marker).
> 
> Signed-off-by: Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@xxxxxxxxxx>

I agree the current behavior is not as clear, especially after hwpoison
introduced.

uffdio-copy is special right now that it can overwrite a marker, so a buggy
userapp can also overwrite a poisoned entry, but it also means the userapp
is broken already, so may not really matter much.

While zeropage wasn't doing that. I think that was just overlooked - i
assume it has the same reasoning as uffdio-copy otherwise.. and no one just
used zeropage over a wp marker yet, or just got it work-arounded by
unprotect+zeropage.

Not yet sure whether it'll make sense to unify this a bit, but making the
new poison api to be strict look fine.  If you have any thoughts after
reading feel free to keep the discussion going, I can ack this one I think
(besides my rename request in 1st patch):

Acked-by: Peter Xu <peterx@xxxxxxxxxx>

-- 
Peter Xu




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