On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 04:10:18PM +0300, Heikki Krogerus wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:21:03AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:47 AM Heikki Krogerus > > <heikki.krogerus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Greg, > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 08:11:54AM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > > > > diff --git a/lib/kobject.c b/lib/kobject.c > > > > > index 83198cb37d8d..5921e2470b46 100644 > > > > > --- a/lib/kobject.c > > > > > +++ b/lib/kobject.c > > > > > @@ -663,6 +663,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(kobject_get_unless_zero); > > > > > */ > > > > > static void kobject_cleanup(struct kobject *kobj) > > > > > { > > > > > + struct kobject *parent = kobj->parent; > > > > > struct kobj_type *t = get_ktype(kobj); > > > > > const char *name = kobj->name; > > > > > > > > > > @@ -680,6 +681,9 @@ static void kobject_cleanup(struct kobject *kobj) > > > > > kobject_uevent(kobj, KOBJ_REMOVE); > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > + /* make sure the parent is not released before the (last) child */ > > > > > + kobject_get(parent); > > > > > + > > > > > /* remove from sysfs if the caller did not do it */ > > > > > if (kobj->state_in_sysfs) { > > > > > pr_debug("kobject: '%s' (%p): auto cleanup kobject_del\n", > > > > > @@ -693,6 +697,8 @@ static void kobject_cleanup(struct kobject *kobj) > > > > > t->release(kobj); > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > + kobject_put(parent); > > > > > + > > > > > > > > No, please don't do this. > > > > > > > > A child device should have always incremented the parent already if it > > > > was correctly registered. We have had this patch been proposed multiple > > > > times over the years, and every time it was, we said no and went and > > > > fixed the real issue which was with the user of the interface. > > > > > > The parent ref count is incremented by the child, that is not the > > > problem. The problem is that when that child is released, if it's the > > > last child of the parent, and there are no other users for the parent, > > > then the parent is actually released _before_ the child. And that > > > happens in the above function kobject_cleanup(). > > > > In fact, it happens in kobject_del() invoked by kobject_cleanup() AFAICS. > > > > So it appears incorrect to use kobject_del() as is in the latter. > > > > > We can work around the problem by taking a reference to the parent > > > separately, but we have to do that everywhere separately (which I > > > guess is exactly what has been done so far). That workaroud still does > > > not really fix the core problem. The core problem is still that > > > lib/kboject.c is allowing the parent kobject to be released before the > > > child kobject, and that quite simply should not be allowed to happen. > > > > > > I don't have a problem if you want to have a better solution for this, > > > but the solution really can't anymore be that we are always expected > > > to separately increment the parent's ref count with every type of > > > kobject. > > > > An alternative might be to define something like __kobject_del() doing > > everything that kobject_del() does *without* the > > kobject_put(kobj->parent). > > > > Then, kobject_del() could be defined as something like (pseudocode): > > > > kobject_del(kobj) > > { > > kobject *perent = kobj->parent; > > > > __kobject_del(kobj); > > kobject_put(parent); > > } > > > > and kobject_cleanup() could call __kobject_del() instead of > > kobject_del() and then do the last kobject_put(parent) when it is done > > with the child. > > > > Would that work? > > I think so. Greg, what do you think? Hm, maybe. Can someone test it out with the reproducer? thanks, greg k-h