On Sunday 20 January 2013 23:51:36 Markus Grabner wrote: > Am Sonntag, 20. Januar 2013, 09:11:50 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman: > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:55:29PM +0100, Markus Grabner wrote: > > > Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013, 16:57:31 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman: > > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:52:14PM +0100, Markus Grabner wrote: > > > > > The function "line6_send_raw_message_async" now has an additional > > > > > argument > > > > > "bool copy", which indicates whether the supplied buffer should be > > > > > copied > > > > > into a dynamically allocated block of memory. The copy flag is also > > > > > stored in the "message" struct such that the temporary memory can be > > > > > freed when appropriate without intervention of the caller. > > > > > > > > Why do this? Why not either always copy it, or always not? > > > > > > Some messages are sent to the device which have no parameters, they are > > > declared at global scope as constant byte arrays and therefore must be > > > copied into a dynamically allocated block of memory in order to be sent > > > over the USB interface. On the other hand, there are messages which do > > > have parameters and which are composed in dynamically allocated memory > > > and can therefore directly be sent without copying. > > > > Then if you always copy the memory, and "own" it after the call, you > > should be fine, right? > > > > > > What is this fixing? > > > > > > Two users reported to me independently that the driver doesn't work for > > > them. I couldn't reproduce the problem since it seems to be triggered by > > > subtle timing issues in the system, but after some further > > > investigations, the kfree() of the message buffer immediately after > > > submitting the message for asynchronous transmission was clearly > > > identified as the reason for the driver not working. The patch puts the > > > kfree() at the right place and (hopefully) prevents incorrect use of the > > > new buffer copy feature. The patch is tested by me and the users who > > > initially reported the bug, and they confirmed that the issue is fixed > > > for them. > > > > > > If anybody has a better idea how to fix this, please go ahead! The patch > > > might also become obsolete in the future due to refactoring. But > > > currently there is a bug which prevents some people from using the > > > driver > > > at all, and this should be fixed soon IMO. > > > > I agree, it should be fixed, but having the code always do the copy and > > manage the memory, and not have the crazy "flag" option, should solve > > the bug for everyone. > > Removing the flag saves three lines of code, keeping the flag saves a tiny > amount of time and memory, so it's not really worth a lengthy discussion, > and I actually don't care much. I will focus on the user space library I'm > currently working on since it will make much of the MIDI-related Line6 > kernel driver code obsolete. I'm currently re-investigating this, and I have been informed by users that some newer Line6 devices talk a device-specific protocol over USB which is different from the MIDI standard and should therefore not be mapped to a virtual MIDI device. This raises some additional questions: *) The easiest way to deal with this would be to use libusb in user space to exchange data with the device. However, as far as I understand, if the device is being used as an ALSA sound card (i.e., the kernel driver has claimed the USB interface to access isochronous endpoints), libusb can't access interrupt endpoints of the same interface at the same time since it can't claim the interface while it is claimed by the kernel. Is this correct? *) If shared kernel/user space access to the same USB interface is not possible as discussed above, what would be the preferred interface for user space applications to talk to the kernel driver? I think netlink is a good candidate, or do you have any other suggestions? A non-MIDI solution would have the additional benefit that all device initialization stuff could be moved to user space, including the code related to the copy flag discussed in January. What do you think? Thanks & kind regards, Markus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kernel-janitors" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html