On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:57 AM Segher Boessenkool <segher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > This is an ABI change. It is also hugely detrimental to generated > code quality on architectures that make the saner choice (that is, have > most instructions zero-extend byte quantities). Yeah, I agree. We should just accept the standard wording, and be aware that 'char' has indeterminate signedness. But: > Instead, don't actively disable the compiler warnings that catch such > cases? So start with removing footguns like > > # disable pointer signed / unsigned warnings in gcc 4.0 > KBUILD_CFLAGS += -Wno-pointer-sign Nope, that won't fly. The pointer-sign thing doesn't actually help (ie it won't find places where you actually compare a char), and it causes untold damage in doing completely insane things. For example, it suddenly starts warning if you *are* being careful, and explicitly use 'unsigned char array[]' things to avoid any sign issues, and then want to do simple and straightforward things with said array (like doing a 'strcmp()' on it). Seriously, -Wpointer-sign is not just useless, it's actively _evil_. The fact that you suggest that clearly means that you've never used it. Linus