Hi Yamada-san, On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 6:05 AM Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 4:58 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 7:43 PM Linus Torvalds > > <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 1:05 AM Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > We do most of the other heavy lifting in this area in Kconfig anyway, > > > why not add that compiler choice? > > > > > > Obviously it would be gated by the tests to see which compilers are > > > _installed_ (and that they are valid versions), so that it doesn't ask > > > stupid things ("do you want gcc or clang" when only one of them is > > > installed and/or viable). > > > > I don't see a good way of making Kconfig options both select the > > compiler and defining variables based on the compiler, since that > > would mean teaching Kconfig about re-evaluating all compiler > > dependent settings whenever the first option changes. > > > > I do have another idea that I think would work though. > > > > > Hmm? So then any "LLVM=1" thing would be about the "make config" > > > stage, not the actual build stage. > > > > > > (It has annoyed me for years that if you want to cross-compile, you > > > first have to do "make ARCH=xyz config" and then remember to do "make > > > ARCH=xyz" for the build too, but I cross-compile so seldom that I've > > > never really cared). > > > > The best thing that I have come up with is a pre-configure step, where > > an object tree gets seeded with a makefile fragment that gets included > > for any 'make' invocation. This would set 'ARCH=', 'CROSS_COMPILE', > > 'CC=' and possibly any other option that gets passed to 'make' as > > a variable and has to exist before calling 'make *config'. > > > There is no need to add a hook to include such makefile fragment(s). > > Quite opposite, you can put your Makefile (in a different filename) > that includes the top Makefile. > > > I think this is what people are already doing: > > > GNU Make looks for 'GNUmakefile', 'makefile', and 'Makefile' > in this order. Exactly. I only have a few source repositories, but lots of build directories (I never build in a repo directory). Each build directory has a GNUmakefile: build/linux-riscv-starlight$ cat GNUmakefile MAKEARGS = ARCH=riscv CROSS_COMPILE=riscv64-linux-gnu- include ~/linux/default.mk build/linux-riscv-starlight$ cat ~/linux/default.mk MAKEFLAGS += --no-print-directory .PHONY: all $(MAKECMDGOALS) all := $(filter-out all Makefile,$(MAKECMDGOALS)) all: @$(MAKE) $(MAKEARGS) $(all) -f Makefile Makefile:; $(all): all @: %/: all @: build/linux-riscv-starlight$ Perhaps we could have a "make setup ARCH=foo CROSS_COMPILE=bar" target, which creates such a GNUmakefile? P.S. I put the extra logic in ~/linux/default.mk, so I don't have to update all GNUmakefiles when I want to make a change to the main logic. For build dirs where I want to track a specific config, I have a slightly different version: build/linux-m68k-allmodconfig-sun3$ cat GNUmakefile MAKEARGS = ARCH=m68k KCONFIG_ALLCONFIG=1 DEFCONFIG = allmodconfig include ~/linux/override-oldconfig.mk build/linux-m68k-allmodconfig-sun3$ cat ~/linux/override-oldconfig.mk MAKEFLAGS += --no-print-directory .PHONY: all oldconfig realoldconfig $(MAKECMDGOALS) all := $(filter-out all oldconfig realoldconfig Makefile,$(MAKECMDGOALS)) all: @$(MAKE) $(MAKEARGS) $(all) -f Makefile # Replace oldconfig by $(DEFCONFIG) oldconfig: @$(MAKE) $(MAKEARGS) $(DEFCONFIG) -f Makefile realoldconfig: @$(MAKE) $(MAKEARGS) oldconfig -f Makefile Makefile:; $(all): all @: %/: all @: build/linux-m68k-allmodconfig-sun3$ That way I can always just type "make oldconfig", and it will do what I want. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds