Hi, So... I realized it's been a while: On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 23:43 +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote: > cc-option and as-option are almost the same; both pass the flag to > $(CC). The main difference is the cc-option stops before the assemble > stage (-S option) whereas as-option stops after it (-c option). > But, I had noticed for a while now that M= build for an out-of-tree driver were causing some trouble. Not really completely "out-of-tree" but rather backported (https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/). And then I finally narrowed it down to this commit, specifically this: > # Return y if the compiler supports <flag>, n otherwise > -cc-option = $(success,$(CC) -Werror $(CLANG_FLAGS) $(1) -S -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null) > +cc-option = $(success,mkdir .tmp_$$$$; trap "rm -rf .tmp_$$$$" EXIT; $(CC) -Werror $(CLANG_FLAGS) $(1) -c -x c /dev/null -o .tmp_$$$$/tmp.o) What happens is that we're doing make -C /path/to/kernel M=/path/to/driver But /path/to/kernel may be the installed distro kernel headers, and thus not be writable to the user doing the driver compile. Obviously, the user may need to 'sudo' anyway to install the result, but if just test- compiling, or even as better practice to not run everything as root, this ".tmp_$$" dir cannot be created. IOW, this broke compiler option detection when KBUILD_EXTMOD=/M= is used. It seems this is still supported (documented in kbuild docs), so I'm kind of hoping it could be fixed? But OTOH, I really don't know how, perhaps just using "mktemp -d" here instead of the hardcoded temp dir? Thanks, johannes