.. > The more you make it look like (Kernel) C, the easier it is for us C > people to actually read. My eyes have been reading C for almost 30 years > by now, they have a lexer built in the optical nerve; reading something > that looks vaguely like C but is definitely not C is an utterly painful > experience. I'll see your 30 years and raise to over 35. (And writing code that accesses hardware for 6 or 7 years before that.) Both Java and go can look more like the K&R style C than any of the examples from microsoft - which seem to utilise as much vertical space as humanly? possible. Those rust examples seemed to be of the horrid microsoft sytle. Nothing about that style makes reading code easy. David - Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)