On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:39 AM Bhaskar Chowdhury <unixbhaskar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 14:30 Wed 06 Nov 2019, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > >On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 10:12:26AM +0530, Bhaskar Chowdhury wrote: > >> On 23:31 Tue 05 Nov 2019, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > >> >On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 11:53:28AM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote: > >> >>BTW. > >> >>Bruce, > >> >>Does the current script expect RHEL or something? > >> >>I do not see 'new-kernel-pkg' on my Ubuntu machine. > >> > > >> >I test on Fedora. Looks like on recent Fedora that's only provided by > >> >an rpm "grubby-deprecated", which is an inauspicious name.... > >> > > >> >I think maybe you're supposed to use "grubby" itself now. Do you have > >> >that? > >> > > >> >>It would still work with 'new-kernel-pkg: command not found' > >> >>warning. > >> >> > >> >>We could bypass it if we like. > >> >> > >> >>command -v new-kernel-pkg && new-kernel-pkg --remove $f > >> > > >> >Looks like it's what updates the grub configuration, which is probably a > >> >nice thing to do if you can. > >> > > >> >--b. > >> > >> Bruce, > >> > >> Two things, > >> > >> If the system doesn't run grub , how the fallback policy??? > >> > >> This binary "new-kernel-pkg" also missing in other systems too...I can > >> confirm that... i.e gentoo,slackware, > >> > >> So , you are only targeting the rpm based system???? > > > >It's just what I happen to use. If someone wants to make it work > >elsewhere that'd be great, as long as we don't break what already works. > > > >I think Debian uses grub2-mkconfig? Might be OK for Fedora too, I > >dunno. > > > >--b. > > Okay , thanks for the input. I was trying to write something in > generalize way , that is why my code spins off.And if you see the > subject line of my very first attempt to patch written was "removing > old kernels and modules dir in selective way"... that was it. > > Now, there are plenty of distros around, not only rpm based one(yes I do > agree that ,you wrote it while using and testing on it, but that is > limited in nature),the broader user base might be using something else. > > we simply can not restrict it to certain packaging version or several > packaging versions of selected distros. We are making and building this > (worth an effort) to make it as generalized as possible. > > Importantly I was only thinking of people who put the stuff in standard > places in the FSH and use it. I might be wrong. > > As I have said it before, I was no way trying to bypass your work ,but > it seems very limited in nature to adopted. So trying to widen the > spectrum. > > I am trying to incorporating both the pole, different kind user base in > mind, like you , who don't like to be prompted for this operation and > assuming things should go well, and you are right. > > On the other hand , I am kinda guy , sometime I need to know what is > going on, so the prompting. > > Well, I have never taken into account about modifying the bootloader > config by looking at your work. Had I been, I would have done it already > and it would be extremely trivial in nature. > > Now, Grub, no doubt it's fantastic piece of software, but complexity > is paramount with it. Don't you think so??? I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST > GRUB! > > I have personally stops using it for years and using something very > rudimentary and simple and useful. That is because I know what I am > doing and my system well. > > Caveat emptor: that was me, not every one else in the wild. Grub is used > by the most distro by default,everybody knows it,but certainly not the > norm. > > I would love to give it a stab again and if you better people feel it is > necessary, but I need some concrete understanding from you,Masahiro and > Randy(who is helping me actively). > > Say, You people might come up , > > We need these : > > a) > b) > c) > > and we don't need these: > > a) > b) > c) > > > My two cents! kindly, flame me with your thoughts. Honestly, I did not even know this script before you submitted the patch. I prune stale kernel/modules with my own script, and I guess people do similar to meet their demand. I am not sure how many people are using this. If somebody is passionate to improve this script in a simple way, that is fine, but I do not want to see messy code for covering various use-cases. -- Best Regards Masahiro Yamada
