On 24/01/15 12:29, Alexander Holler wrote: > Am 24.01.2015 um 13:09 schrieb Alexander Holler: >> Am 24.01.2015 um 12:37 schrieb Alexander Holler: >>> Am 24.01.2015 um 11:45 schrieb Alexander Holler: >>> >>>> It uses shred, in the hope it will somedays learn how to shred stuff on >>>> FLASH based devices securely too, once that has become possible. >>> >>> BTW: This is a good example where technology failed to keep the needs of >>> users in mind. >> >> Failed completely. >> >> Since ever it's a problem for people to securely delete files on storage. >> >> Also it should be very simple to securely erase files on block based >> devices, people have to try cruel ways in the hope to get securely rid >> of files nobody else should be able to see ever again. >> >> It's almost unbelievable how completely the IT industry (including the >> field I'm working myself: SW) failed in regard to that since 30 years or >> even more. > > And it isn't such that this is a new requirement. Humans are doing such > since thousands of years. They use fire to get rid of paper documents > and even the old egypts were able to destroyed stuff on stones by using > simple steps. Just the IT failed completely. > > Really unbelievable. > > So, sorry if anyone got bored by this mail, but I think that really has > to be said and repeated. Well not failed completely, just used a different method (encryption). As for "shredding", that improves in effectiveness the lower you go. I.E. it's effective for the whole file system (SSD range), or whole device. Pádraig. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kbuild" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html